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Hey All,

I am a soon-to-be switcher. I am currently using three Windows systems that will be getting replaced by a single MacBook Pro. This MacBook Pro will become my "everything computer". It will be used for personal use, gaming, and work. I am posting here because of the forum names, I figured this is the best option as I am specifically asking about gaming and performance.

I am a network engineer by trade, and will be required to use boot camp for very specific Windows-based programs that my company uses for business.

I am a bit of a gamer. Historically, Apple hasn't really been part of this arena, but recently I've noticed many of my favorite game titles have been introduced with Mac compatibility. These titles are primarily comprised of Counter-Strike: Source (and other Valve/Source games), as well as World of Warcraft.

The reason for this post is to get the opinion of others that have switched from Windows gaming systems to Apple products. So, I have a couple questions:

1. Boot Camp -- Do you use it? Does it work to your satisfaction?
2. Gaming -- What kind of performance can be expected for MMO gaming? Do you know of any good Mac gaming review sites?
3. Value -- Considering the expense of making the change, and from the point of view of other switchers, would you do it again? Yes or No, and why?
4. Trendy -- Is the trendy sexy style of Apple the only reason to switch? What does Apple have to offer me that Windows doesnt? (Dont say virus protection, because I cleaned a pretty nasty trojan off of OSX last week)

Thanks in advance everyone.

Regards,
jvalentine
 

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pigoo3 has probably answered Q 2 and 3

Value? The value of a mac probably resides in OSX, which is the best OS out there, in my opinion anyway. Combine that with the value of OSX apps, from apple and others. Sure Windows has far more apps but so many are so poorly written and designed, you may find the Mac software ecosystem smaller but with better quality.

trendy - don't but anything because it is trendy ( just look at the Dr Dre headphones for that). Buy it because you want it and it will make your life easier and less stressful. If a Mac meets that need then go for it, but if not then stick to what is in your comfort zone
 

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(Dont say virus protection, because I cleaned a pretty nasty trojan off of OSX last week)

A trojan is not a virus. There are several trojans that can be had if you visit torrent sites or porn sites. But the fact remains that there are no Mac viruses in the wild - none.
 
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Thanks. I dont intend to argue semantics. Malware exists for OSX. I've seen and removed it many times. Granted it is no where near as bad as Windows. Trojans might not classify as a traditional virus but then again, traditional viri are rarely seen anymore. Also, feel free to google OSX Virus. You will find yourself pleasantly surprised that you are not invulnerable. They do exist, despite your sentiment.

Also at the recommendation by pigoo3, I found the answers I was looking for by searching. Thanks for the help guys.
 
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Semantics are important - otherwise you are spreading mis-information. And I agree - there is plenty of malware out there but as you said - it isn't as nasty as other OSes. One of the first posts on this forum from me was - how lax everyone seems about malware on the Mac - so you'll get no argument from me.

I got a virus on a machine I just left on - on a corporate network, with a corporate copy of Norton running, behind a corporate firewall. I was running the machine as a remote desktop and I hadn't touched it in weeks. Corporate policy updates the Machine automatically so it was as patched as it could be. That is the difference - most Malware for Mac - the user has to be an active participant, whereas a true virus just takes a missing patch (or some other vulnerability, haven't figured out what the virus was - left it to IT).

The main reason I switched was because of Time Machine - an easy to use automatic backup built into every Mac.

Although this has been discussed before - I have had some changes recently. Steam and the App store have gotten plenty of games ported to the Mac platform. Unfortunately some of my favorite RTS games are only available on Windows. I ended up having a set of games running on Bootcamp, and another set running on Mac - both on Steam. The setup is OK - but if I feel like playing Warhammer 40k - I have to boot to Windows to do it - but I use the same Steam account. Unfortunately I had to re-install Steam for Windows so that is double the size. This is a personal preference - but I run what I can can on the Mac and only install what I can't run on the Mac on the Windows side. My Windows partition is significantly smaller than the Mac partition. I could see another school of thought - where with any game - just install on Bootcamp, and keep the Mac side for everything else. That may help productivity as well - you have to boot another OS to waste time gaming.
 

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2. Gaming -- What kind of performance can be expected for MMO gaming? Do you know of any good Mac gaming review sites?
I can't comment on the performance in OS X but if you've already purchased the games, you might as well play them in Windows. In that case, the performance would be equivalent to that of a similarly spec'd machine.
 
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That is another good point by Vansmith. Depending on your game delivery method of choice - you may have a license to run on both platforms. Steam is setup this way. If I buy a game that is compatible in both - I can install it on both Bootcamp and Mac - and play on either. Conversely - if you already bought the game on Windows and want to play on the Mac - you should try entering your key to see if it works. That worked for some of my Half-Life games on Steam. Some keys were too old so Steam didn't recognize them.
 

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Ivan brings up a good point - if you purchased the game through Steam and there is a Mac version available, you can install it on your Mac at no additional charge.
 

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