Apple Releases OS X Lion

jetmech1 said:

Just had my second crash (kernel Panic) since installing Lion. This time I had Chrome, Mail, and Calendar open. My only option was to do a Hard Shut-Down.

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Did you prep the system in any way before hand?

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...-x-10-7-what-do-before-you-click-install.html

cwa107 said:

Did you prep the system in any way before hand?

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os...-x-10-7-what-do-before-you-click-install.html

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I made a bootable back-up.
I repaired Permissions.
I made sure all updates were current.

Clean the cob webs........some what.

I did install a few more updates after Lion was installed, nut after the crashes. Has not happened since. Fingers Crossed

schweb said:

Disagree. It's not like we're talking terminal hacking here. There's enough of a reason someone would need to get to their Library folder that they should have at least made it a preference item.

And if the Library is so dangerous, why didn't they also hide the main system Library?

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I do agree. What if a PList gets corrupted? How do we tell people to fix it without access to that folder? There is a terminal command to unhide it.

schweb said:

Disagree. It's not like we're talking terminal hacking here. There's enough of a reason someone would need to get to their Library folder that they should have at least made it a preference item.

And if the Library is so dangerous, why didn't they also hide the main system Library?

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The system Library folder would have been left visible presumably because you need elevated privileges to modify it.

The user rarely, if ever, needs to go messing around in ~/Library. We've both seen how often people make posts asking for advice because they deleted something they shouldn't have. Now, granted, nothing that I know of in ~/Library will break your system if it was deleted. Still, you can have prefs reset and other minor inconveniences. So I agree that nothing in there will destroy your system but having it hidden prevents those who are unfamiliar with it from messing with things they probably don't need to be messing with.

As an aside, they also made it harder for users to get to the root directory.

Regarding the trackpad, I always used 3 fingers to jump back and forward in my web browser. It seems like they have removed it completely in Lion, or is it just me that is blind?

I started download at 11:55am PST and it took an hour to complete. Maybe lengthy due to time of day??
Install took another 40+ minutes. My MBP is summer 2008, just before the unibody version came out. So, maybe that's part of the long install time. ??

cwa107 said:

Man, Spotlight took FOREVER to re-index. Even after it did, it kept briefly starting up the process each time I rebooted.

I manually forced an index rebuild and now it seems OK. Weird issue though - I wonder if it's a bug.

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Spotlight is hilarious, takes no time at all on an SSD. Gotta get on the train, CWA!

Bcn said:

Regarding the trackpad, I always used 3 fingers to jump back and forward in my web browser. It seems like they have removed it completely in Lion, or is it just me that is blind?

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I also can't find the feature (I believe it's expose) where you could swipe away all open apps and just see your desktop. The ability to bring them all on screen to click between is still there, but the four fingers swiping down no longer clears the space.

Anyone got ideas?

Bcn said:

Regarding the trackpad, I always used 3 fingers to jump back and forward in my web browser. It seems like they have removed it completely in Lion, or is it just me that is blind?

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It's now 2 finger swipe left/right

But it seems to work only on Safari but not Firfox like in SL..

JChace029 said:

I also can't find the feature (I believe it's expose) where you could swipe away all open apps and just see your desktop. The ability to bring them all on screen to click between is still there, but the four fingers swiping down no longer clears the space.

Anyone got ideas?

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I very much liked that feature, it's really a shame imo.

To see the desktop, you have to use four fingers, swipe three up to the right corner and your thumb to the left corner of the trackpad. At least that's how it works for me.

Hope I explained myself, sorry for my English.

quin said:

It's now 2 finger swipe left/right

But it seems to work only on Safari but not Firfox like in SL..

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Certainly doesn't work in Chrome either.

So, is there a way to go back to Snow Leopard?

quin said:

It's now 2 finger swipe left/right

But it seems to work only on Safari but not Firfox like in SL..

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Thanks, just checked and worked in Safari. Normally use Firefox, but oh well.

In the system prefs you can go to trackpad and edit some of the gestures. Put it back to 3 finger swiping is what I did because I don't use safari.

JChace029 said:

I also can't find the feature (I believe it's expose) where you could swipe away all open apps and just see your desktop. The ability to bring them all on screen to click between is still there, but the four fingers swiping down no longer clears the space.

Anyone got ideas?

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I have to go under Mission Control>Hot corner>Set one of the corner to show desktop

Bcn said:

Regarding the trackpad, I always used 3 fingers to jump back and forward in my web browser. It seems like they have removed it completely in Lion, or is it just me that is blind?

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quin said:

It's now 2 finger swipe left/right

But it seems to work only on Safari but not Firfox like in SL..

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JChace029 said:

Certainly doesn't work in Chrome either.

So, is there a way to go back to Snow Leopard?

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Go to System Preferences, then Trackpad, then to More Gestures. You should see a down arrow to the right of "Swipe between pages." Click on it and select the 3 finger swipe. There are a lot more options with the other gestures too!

quin said:

It's now 2 finger swipe left/right

But it seems to work only on Safari but not Firfox like in SL..

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changeable via system preferences to go back to 3 finger, which i did immediately upon installing the first preview. works fine in all browsers as 3 finger. just tick the pref.

JChace029 said:

I also can't find the feature (I believe it's expose) where you could swipe away all open apps and just see your desktop. The ability to bring them all on screen to click between is still there, but the four fingers swiping down no longer clears the space.

Anyone got ideas?

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The opposite of launchpad. Instead of pinching with 3 fingers and thumb you open with three fingers and thumb.

Bcn said:

I very much liked that feature, it's really a shame imo.

To see the desktop, you have to use four fingers, swipe three up to the right corner and your thumb to the left corner of the trackpad. At least that's how it works for me.

Hope I explained myself, sorry for my English.

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to clarify, it's like the pinch for launchpad, except in the opposite direction. 4 fingers exploding outward from the center.

I'm liking the new downloads tab in Safari. The old downloads windows always used to find away to hide from me. Not any more!

Bcn said:

Thanks, just checked and worked in Safari. Normally use Firefox, but oh well.

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Just found a solution. Go to Trackpad preference>More gestures>Under 'swipe between page' > select 'swipe with 2 or 3 fingers

Firefox should now work with the 3 finger swipe, Safari with 2. I haven't tried Chrome yet.

Chrome works with 3 also.