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Imagining An End Game For RIM

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Is it just me or is everyone saying every bad thing they can about RIM lately? This article is no different. Does it even matter what RIM does anymore or have disparaging remarks become the norm for RIM?

Chief among those scenarios: Microsoft acquiring RIM. The tech giant is desperately looking for a viable way to compete in the smart-phone market and it has deep enough pockets ($36 billion) to help RIM branch out its mobile offerings to reach a wider range of consumers.
Never going to happen. I find it hard to believe that MS would spend that much of their capital to enter a market that isn't really their focus and I don't think RIM would sell itself off because they've been experiencing some issues.

The article also states that they only had 4.5 million subscribers. Honestly, using the word only was a poor choice. Sure, it may not be what they expected but 4.5 million subscribers is still quite a bit.

I won't ignore the fact that they have been having some trouble (example: luke warm reception of OS 6) but it's hardly the time to start calling for massive change and the end of RIM as we know it.
 

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Agreed, Vansmith. RIM's financials are strong and they have and will continue to hold a strong foothold in the business market. BB isn't the hot property it once was, but for certain niche markets, it's the best solution.
 
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The article also states that they only had 4.5 million subscribers. Honestly, using the word only was a poor choice. Sure, it may not be what they expected but 4.5 million subscribers is still quite a bit.

That's 4.5 million new subscribers in a quarter. Not bad at all.
 
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Never going to happen. I find it hard to believe that MS would spend that much of their capital to enter a market that isn't really their focus and I don't think RIM would sell itself off because they've been experiencing some issues.

Right there is the flaw in your argument. What IS Microsoft's focus these days? They don't even seem to know and they appear to be simply casting around looking for markets they can try to exploit or bully their way into.

After years of criticizing Apple they have entered the Hardware business (Zune, X-Box, iPad knockoff etc) without seeing much irony. They are looking for any market they can break into or, in the case of RIM, buy their way into and out of their self dug hole.
 
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Right there is the flaw in your argument. What IS Microsoft's focus these days? They don't even seem to know and they appear to be simply casting around looking for markets they can try to exploit or bully their way into.

After years of criticizing Apple they have entered the Hardware business (Zune, X-Box, iPad knockoff etc) without seeing much irony. They are looking for any market they can break into or, in the case of RIM, buy their way into and out of their self dug hole.

Apple needs a competitor, and consumers need an alternative to the ipod.
 
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If you ask me, (and feel free to correct my flaws in this), RIM is becoming a little bit more like Apple was in the 90s.

-Multiple hardware models
-Ever-changing OS
 
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Apple needs a competitor, and consumers need an alternative to the ipod.

Competition is always good for the consumer and they have alternatives to
the iPod they just don't sell as well.
 

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Right there is the flaw in your argument. What IS Microsoft's focus these days? They don't even seem to know and they appear to be simply casting around looking for markets they can try to exploit or bully their way into.
I'm not sure that's a flaw in my argument but I do agree that they do have a lack of focus. My argument was based on a recognition that they seem content to developing the software and not the hardware when it comes to phones. Let's not forget the second part of my argument which was that a slightly weak part of the year (which was in actual fact, still fairly good) is not grounds for RIM to go looking for a buyer.
 

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