NAB, RIAA seek to push FM radio into iPods and iPhones

AppleInsider | NAB, RIAA seek to push FM radio into iPods and iPhones

I am SO against this! All these stupid record label companies are getting so greedy that I'm seriously thinking of alternative ways of getting their music. Enforcing fm radios on ipods and other mp3 players so that they can secure royalties? No! I don't think so! Make it the old fashioned way, were people paid money for actual good music! Like one of the comments on there, it's like enforcing typewriters on all notebooks/laptops. Just ridiculous. If your music was good enough, it would be played on the radio anyways...
Who want's to pay extra for useless, dated technology anyways?
Satellite radio though...that might make me reconsider.

My radio gets played in my truck and sometimes when I am cleaning the house but most
of the time its either a CD or lossless , too much talk and comercials on the radio for me
besides the overly compressed music.

I would say that Apple has its ways with the record companies- and Steve Jobs won't say Yes, and won't take a No for an answer.

That's just dumb.

im not seeing the issue here?? it would be awsome if there were radios in ipod touches and iphones and stuff. its not like you have to pay extra for it, and you dont have to use it if you dont want to... so why is this a bad thing again??

Apple-Tutorials said:

im not seeing the issue here?? it would be awsome if there were radios in ipod touches and iphones and stuff. its not like you have to pay extra for it, and you dont have to use it if you dont want to... so why is this a bad thing again??

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The reason they want it is stupid.

Apple-Tutorials said:

im not seeing the issue here?? it would be awsome if there were radios in ipod touches and iphones and stuff. its not like you have to pay extra for it, and you dont have to use it if you dont want to... so why is this a bad thing again??

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It's a new added feature, which requires it's own antenna...one way or another, you will pay for it. It's not just as simple as adding an application or menu, it's a whole new part that has to be put inside an already cramped ipod. Remember all the old dell mp3 players that had them...looked similar to a brick...

idrinorbarsaku said:

It's a new added feature, which requires it's own antenna...one way or another, you will pay for it. It's not just as simple as adding an application or menu, it's a whole new part that has to be put inside an already cramped ipod. Remember all the old dell mp3 players that had them...looked similar to a brick...

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I had a Creative one, a good many years ago. It had radio, and was just a little larger than a USB key. Maybe the size of a zippo lighter.

Really, I don't see the issue either

idrinorbarsaku said:

It's a new added feature, which requires it's own antenna...one way or another, you will pay for it. It's not just as simple as adding an application or menu, it's a whole new part that has to be put inside an already cramped ipod. Remember all the old dell mp3 players that had them...looked similar to a brick...

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the nano has a radio and retains its own design.... and you dont have to pay for that radio, and im sure apple can engineer a radio into their device without changing the appearance of the product, such as the ipod or iphone or w.e. or atleast a very noticeable change... after all like i said they did it with the nano.

Like mentioned above, the nano has one, and my sansa, which has a similar footprint to the nano, also has one.

I think the reasoning for it is dumb, and I hate the idea of them being forced to add one, but I don't look at the feature as a negative, either.

Apple-Tutorials said:

the nano has a radio and retains its own design.... and you dont have to pay for that radio, and im sure apple can engineer a radio into their device without changing the appearance of the product, such as the ipod or iphone or w.e. or atleast a very noticeable change... after all like i said they did it with the nano.

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Yes, Apple decided, on their own, that they wanted to include a radio receiver so they designed it into their iPod. I am baffled as to how you think it is appropriate for any government agency/organization to mandate an electronics company to design a component into a device? Who cares if it is possible or not!!

RONE said:

Yes, Apple decided, on their own, that they wanted to include a radio receiver so they designed it into their iPod. I am baffled as to how you think it is appropriate for any government agency/organization to mandate an electronics company to design a component into a device? Who cares if it is possible or not!!

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why do you care so much?? yes i agree its ridiculous to mandate it but how how does it directly affect you?? at most it gives you another feature on your music player to carry the radio with you, portably. It results in a better experience for the user. It also expands the market for radio. Why is this so bad?

and it's a radio in consumer electronics, its not like their forcing communism on evryone

Apple-Tutorials said:

why do you care so much?? yes i agree its ridiculous to mandate it but how how does it directly affect you?? at most it gives you another feature on your music player to carry the radio with you, portably. It results in a better experience for the user. It also expands the market for radio. Why is this so bad?

and it's a radio in consumer electronics, its not like their forcing communism on evryone

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Everything starts somewhere....


As for why I care, who do you think is going to end up paying for the component? What other internal components are going to have to be compromised/modified/re-worked to get it to fit? If there's demand, there will be supply. Let the market decide what components should go into devices. If the Nano's radio gets used a lot (which Apple will know due to the "send anonymous usage data" option people are offered when setting up an iDevice), then it will get added to other devices. With the widespread availability of WiFi and 3G, there's no need for iPhones and iPod touches to have a radio receiver for the vast majority of users.

RONE said:

Everything starts somewhere....


As for why I care, who do you think is going to end up paying for the component? What other internal components are going to have to be compromised/modified/re-worked to get it to fit? If there's demand, there will be supply. Let the market decide what components should go into devices. If the Nano's radio gets used a lot (which Apple will know due to the "send anonymous usage data" option people are offered when setting up an iDevice), then it will get added to other devices. With the widespread availability of WiFi and 3G, there's no need for iPhones and iPod touches to have a radio receiver for the vast majority of users.

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i think there is plenty of demand for a radio in these devices. people have been wanting them for a while now. If they do put radios in them, i can guarantee you that they will be used by the majority. Especially in iphones and ipod touches and ipads.

Ya i'd rather it not be a forced issue, but as long as it gets on the device one way or another, im fine with it, and im sure most people are.

Apple-Tutorials said:

i think there is plenty of demand for a radio in these devices. people have been wanting them for a while now. If they do put radios in them, i can guarantee you that they will be used by the majority. Especially in iphones and ipod touches and ipads.

Ya i'd rather it not be a forced issue, but as long as it gets on the device one way or another, im fine with it, and im sure most people are.

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I am always amazed at how often something everyone has wanted for a while has to be forced on people. I'd love to see the numbers on how many people consider this a "must have" and how many consider it "nice but not a deal breaker". If/when there is a demand for this someone will build it.

As far as cost is concerned forcing installation of FM radio (or any other feature for that matter) is a cost everyone pays for. Time spent adding the FM radio feature is time and space taken away from other areas. None of this addresses the real reason the RIAA is concerned about loosing money. Over the air radio is loosing listenership because it all sounds the same.

Slydude said:

I am always amazed at how often something everyone has wanted for a while has to be forced on people. I'd love to see the numbers on how many people consider this a "must have" and how many consider it "nice but not a deal breaker". If/when there is a demand for this someone will build it.

As far as cost is concerned forcing installation of FM radio (or any other feature for that matter) is a cost everyone pays for. Time spent adding the FM radio feature is time and space taken away from other areas. None of this addresses the real reason the RIAA is concerned about loosing money. Over the air radio is loosing listenership because it all sounds the same.

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Demand?? you mean like the "demand" for video recording in an ipod nano?? or the "demand" for the compass app feature on the iphone? or the actual demand for a camera in the ipad?

how bout a radio is added because people WANT it.

That's my point exactly when enough people "want" FM reception badly enough to consider it a" deal breaker" then customers will buy someone else's product or Apple will build a device that has it. That is very different from having someone else decide it "must" be there.

I think the same holds true for cameras and other features on the iPad. While many people lamented the lack of a camera obviously it was not a deal breaking issue for most of the buyers or demand would not have been as high as it has been.

BTW I wouldn't necessarily judge the "demand" for a feature based on forum complaints or tech writers comments. Corporations listen primarily to sales figures otherwise the whole Betamax vs. VHS debate might have ended differently.

The technology already exists with some of the streaming audio sources that gives you the option to buy the song you are listening to from iTunes so all they would have to do is incorporate this feature into an HD tuner and Apple would make even more money!

It's wrong for one industry to try to manipulate the government into mandating another industry to prop up their business model. I'm just amazed that some people are OK with this. Why stop there? Why FM radio? Why not AM? Why not force everyone to add on Sirius/XM support to prop them up also? I'm sure if the iPod Touch had 3G, Apple's users would use it, so why not mandate that all media players include 3G also? I'll tell you why… it's not the government's business!

What they should do is just implement the current radio stations that you can find on itunes, because I already use those A LOT due to them actually being quality stations that don't post more ads than music. I would be perfectly OK with streaming radio.