Random Kernel Panics for no apparent reason... Help!

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Hello - new to this forum, and I hope someone can help me resolve a problem I've been recently having with my PowerMac G5.

It all started when I installed some an additional 2GB of RAM (bought from Crucial, which is always very good and reliable) to add to my existing 2GB of Apple RAM, and soon afterwards, found the Mac crashing with the 'grey veil of death' happening quite a lot.

I ran Memtest several times, which showed n problem with the RAM, but I removed it anyway, to see if it was that which was causing it, and the Mac still keeps crashing with either a grey veil of death, or just a total freezeup, requiring a hard-reboot.

I have tried everything - removing all attached devices, resetting the PRAM, pressing the little reset button on the logic board, removing the battery and unplugging the Mac for a day, swapping the Apple RAM (which has always been fine) into different slots.... nothing seems to work.

At the weekend, the Mac wouldn't even boot up, and kept turning itself off during startup after in the grey screen with the Apple logo and spinning radar-wheel.

I got it to boot up OK from an external firewire drive I have, but Disk Utility said it couldn't fix the drive and Diskwarrior also said it was irreparable.

I did manage to get Techtool to repair it though, which took about 9 hours but it did successfully rebuild the volume structure and the Mac would then boot up fine and all seemed ok, but it still crashes randomly and for no apparent reason.

I never did put the new RAM back into the machine so it's all as it was before all this trouble started, and I have no devices attached to the Mac anymore, except the original Apple keyboard and mouse (which I don't normally use, but my wireless one doesn't let me start up from an external drive or reset PRAM or anything...).

I'm going mad trying to figure out what is wrong with this thing, and I have just read how to get a crash-report (although it means nothing to me), so am posting it here.. I hope that's OK....

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know! I'm posting the last 2 Panic Reports here incase someone can decipher anything.

In the second one (from 21st Oct), I have no peripheral devices attached at all, except my original Apple keyboard and mouse.

Thanks

Matt :(

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Tue Oct 20 19:58:40 2009


Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000005A37EF0 PC=0x00000000000841BC
Latest crash info for cpu 1:
Exception state (sv=0x3e51c500)
PC=0x000841BC; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x05A37EF0; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00067374; R1=0x35707D40; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x0412DF80 0x00067374 0x000B110C 0x000B4278
backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFFC350

Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x3e51c500)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x3e2a7a00)
PC=0x91F906B4; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x01219334; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x91F90688; R1=0xBFFFC350; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: DragThing Helper

Mac OS version:
9L30

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerMac7,3

System uptime in nanoseconds: 129319156249
unloaded kexts:
(none)
loaded kexts:
com.sophos.kext.sav 1.0.4 - last loaded 1502179652
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 2.0.38
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver 2.6.0
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_Seize 1.1.3
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_X 1.1.3
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.GeForcePPC 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.MotorolaSM56K 1.3.9
com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOpticalMouse 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet 1.5.9f1
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage 1.5.2d0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSEP 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleMaxim6690 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1
com.apple.driver.AppleAD741x 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleLM7x 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage 2.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.4.9
com.apple.driver.ApplePMU 2.5.6d2
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATA 1.0.4f2
com.apple.driver.AppleGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1
com.apple.driver.MacIOGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATARoot 1.0.5b1
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 3.9.7
com.apple.driver.AppleKauaiATA 1.2.1f4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUThermo 2.0.0a0
com.apple.driver.AppleMPIC 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleI0
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Wed Oct 21 23:45:48 2009


Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000080000010 PC=0x000000000006A2D0
Latest crash info for cpu 1:
Exception state (sv=0x35696280)
PC=0x0006A2D0; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x80000010; DSISR=0x00200000; LR=0x00070630; R1=0x3E6EFC50; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x02FC9478 0x00070630 0x00089A70 0x00052C9C 0x0002C100 0x00024B58
0x000B45CC 0x00000000
backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xF007F800

Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x35696280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x3554ca00)
PC=0x964711F8; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x0023A000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x96478120; R1=0xF007F800; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: ReportCrash

Mac OS version:
9L30

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerMac7,3

System uptime in nanoseconds: 89111576781668
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 5022289210
loaded kexts:
com.sophos.kext.sav 1.0.4 - last loaded 1619648134
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 2.0.38
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver 2.6.0
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_Seize 1.1.3
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_X 1.1.3
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.MotorolaSM56K 1.3.9
com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.GeForcePPC 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOpticalMouse 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet 1.5.9f1
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSEP 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleMaxim6690 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1
com.apple.driver.AppleAD741x 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleLM7x 1.9d0
com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage 2.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.ApplePMU 2.5.6d2
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATA 1.0.4f2
com.apple.driver.AppleGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1
com.apple.driver.MacIOGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATARoot 1.0
 
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Your hard drive has died. They do sadly. You have done all the trouble shooting tips and if Disk Utility and DW cannot bring it back, time for a new drive.
 
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harryb2448 said:
Your hard drive has died. They do sadly. You have done all the trouble shooting tips and if Disk Utility and DW cannot bring it back, time for a new drive.
Click to expand...

ooh, ok. Have you been able to deduce this from the Panic Logs? They don't mean much to me but I'm hoping someone can decipher them.

I did revive my hard drive with Techtool and am running from it now, and interestingly, I had a couple of KP's when booted from an external drive too, so not sure if the internal hard drive would have been involved in that at all.

:(
 
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DiskWarrior is a great program, and if it cannot repair a HDD you are living on borrowed time. As a suggestion download a little utility called SMARTReporter which installs in the menu bar and advises the state of your drive.

corecode->SMARTReporter
 
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Great menubar program. Very useful for my ten year old Power Mac, b/c I don't know how old the Mac HD is. I also installed a second drive, which I think is also old, so I don't know when either will fail. At least I have about two or three more PATA drives lying around somewhere...
 
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I've installed SMARTreporter and it seems to think everything's fine, although I've just crashed again with a KP....

I'm copying in the latest panic report but do these panic reports actually give any indication as to what the problem is, or is it a waste of time posting them?


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Fri Oct 23 00:27:34 2009
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x000AD128): simple lock (0x00453220) deadlock detection, pc=0x0003F488

Latest stack backtrace for cpu 1:
Backtrace:
0x0009CC88 0x0009D63C 0x00029DA0 0x000AD128 0x0003F488 0x00031B2C 0x000B45CC 0x00000000
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x354cb500)
PC=0x964713A8; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE372F000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x955839A4; R1=0xBFFFED80; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: DragThing

Mac OS version:
9L30

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerMac7,3

System uptime in nanoseconds: 1906775834020
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSBP2 1.9.8 - last unloaded 8593119621
loaded kexts:
com.sophos.kext.sav 1.0.4 - last loaded 1746861701
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver 2.6.0
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_Seize 1.1.3
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 2.0.38
com.echofx.driver.USBVision_X 1.1.3
com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.MotorolaSM56K 1.3.9
com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.GeForcePPC 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIReducedBlockCommandsDevice 2.1.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOpticalMouse 3.2.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet 1.5.9f1
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage 1.5.2d0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSEP 1.3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1
com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin 3.4.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleMaxim6690 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1
com.apple.driver.AppleAD741x 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleLM7x 1.9d0
com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.LSI_FW_500 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.Oxford_Semi 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91
com.apple.driver.StorageLynx 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.initioFWBridge 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolSansPhysicalUnit 2.0.9
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage 2.0.6
com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.4.9
com.apple.driver.ApplePMU 2.5.6d2
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATA 1.0.4f2
com.apple.driver.AppleGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1
com.apple.driver.MacIOGPIO 1.3.0d0
com.apple.driver.AppleK2SATARoot 1.0.5b1
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 3.9.7
com.apple.driver.AppleKauaiATA 1.2.1f4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUThermo 2.0.0a0
com.apple.driver.AppleMPIC 1.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleI2C 4.0.0d2
com.apple.driver.AppleSPU 2.5.6d2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
com.apple.driver.AppleK2 1.7.2f1
com.apple.driver.AppleMacRiscPCI 3.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleCore99NP
 

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