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I was going to post something rather wordy a few days ago, but I let it go, calmed down and simply have stayed away from the Macbook Pro in terms of my "problem" since then.
A short synopsis on my daily computing habits: I use Linux. Currently using Kubuntu, and I hate to say this but, as far as day to day work flow's go, Linux is a lot faster and efficient for me. I'm still learning with OS X, but seeing what things it has to offer in terms of speed and tricks for getting apps in and out of the proverbial door (so to speak), I'm left feeling that I see what limitations there are, imposed by the confines of what OS X wants me to do with things, rather than the other way around. If I wanted, I could have an media player app in Linux work much like iTunes, but it's not what I like. Here's an example of how I work, and what I NEED out of iTunes, but isn't being offered to me:
1. I rip a CD. The folder produced by the ripper either contains just the artist's album name, OR, if the artist's main folder doesn't already exist (band name) then it creates it, with a sub folder that contains the albums name and subsequent files in it. That takes a click or two to set up.
2. I tell the ripper what directory to place the album one time, and bam, all albums go there from now on, or until I change the location for whatever reason. (this is a one time step, so can be kind of excluded from the list)
3. I open my version of Finder, cut (rather than copy) the album from its current location, then paste it inside of the main Music folder, and within its respective slot amongst the artist's folder etc..
4. It must be understood that there is a pre-made "Music" folder within my home directory, and within that, I have sorted my artist's folders in some hierarchal fashion. What's important is that it's all alphabetical (of course) and that my Media player of choice is going to be told which folder on my HD to search out new music folders, much like how iTunes has the "iTunes Music" folder as its default go-to folder.
5. So, now that I've dropped some new albums into the "music" folder, upon opening my media player, it is automatically set to scan that folder for new music, and then automatically adds said files to its database, and refreshes its main playlist window. If only iTunes were this simple. But it's not.
Here's what frustrates the heck out of me w/iTunes. I know that it uses the iTunes Music folder to copy folders to, but should I choose to physically drop folders or files there, the playlist will only utilize those files if I manually choose to "Add" them. Yet, at the same token.. All I have to do is drag folders in to the actual iTunes window and said files will be copied to that very same folder and will now populate the playlist window. Um, redundant ? Not only redundant and disfunctional (imo) but now I have to physically delete the other set of files which were copied, which is time consuming for one, and takes up resources, secondly. That's just one gripe.
Secondly, should I choose to delete a folder from the iTunes Music folder, I'm still going to see those files in the playlist window. This is very problematic in the case that I have tons and tons of files, and delete a lot of them, and now have to search out those which I've gotten rid of, just to physically remove them from the playlist. More redundancy, inefficiency and a waste of time. I mean, iTunes follows a database's way of working, so why would these things be so hard to make work better ?
Third: And probably the worst pet peeve. I only have a 180 gig HD in my MBP (well, it's technically a 200 gig drive but you know.. ) and only about 160 gigs left on it, and would rather not use it to store all of my music since it's quite much. Here's where streaming from an external HD would be the plan. So, I have my 250 gig HD which was being used for my older Linux box, but took it out of there. I figured it would be as simple as directing iTunes to the music directory of that HD and away it would go ! But alas, Apple doesn't want me doing this for some reason, and would rather tell my external drive to populate its self with the same exact files it already has, only to consolidate them when finished, and then leave me to delete the original files.
Um, stupid. First off, I don't even have enough room to do that. Secondly, why would this be necessary in a logical world ? Yes, yes.. it's the way it does it, and I "have to deal with it" so I've heard, but that doesn't stop it from being totally illogical and ridiculous, right ? I had thought of so many terrible things to say about the programming done on this application, but I'll save it for my own private amusement.
I've had co-workers (Mac users) tell me that I'm too picky, want too much, am anal retentive etc.. which perhaps is true, but when I hear things like, "oh, you'll love it. It's so user friendly and you can do so much with it etc.." I cringe. I understand Apple wanting to be "different", but couldn't that be done without spiting its self and cutting off it's stem ?
Ok, rant OVER. Now what I'd like to know is this:
I've heard that it MIGHT be possible to write an Applescript which would enable iTunes to do those things that I want it to do, as noted above with my notes on usage of Linux etc.. Though It may be, I'm also guessing that it's NOT possible, due to how the file structure is set up and having limited parameters to work with. I'm totally gangbusters on buying a good book in order to learn how to work with Applescripts, but I want to know if I'm wasting my time ?
My other thought is that it CAN be done. If anybody has seen or used the Music player called Cog, you'd know that this is how a music app should handle playlist population and such. It's too bad that Cog doesn't support iPod integration, because if it did, I'd wipe iTunes from my MBP in a second.
Thoughts, suggestions and help all wanted.
Thanks much.
Doug
A short synopsis on my daily computing habits: I use Linux. Currently using Kubuntu, and I hate to say this but, as far as day to day work flow's go, Linux is a lot faster and efficient for me. I'm still learning with OS X, but seeing what things it has to offer in terms of speed and tricks for getting apps in and out of the proverbial door (so to speak), I'm left feeling that I see what limitations there are, imposed by the confines of what OS X wants me to do with things, rather than the other way around. If I wanted, I could have an media player app in Linux work much like iTunes, but it's not what I like. Here's an example of how I work, and what I NEED out of iTunes, but isn't being offered to me:
1. I rip a CD. The folder produced by the ripper either contains just the artist's album name, OR, if the artist's main folder doesn't already exist (band name) then it creates it, with a sub folder that contains the albums name and subsequent files in it. That takes a click or two to set up.
2. I tell the ripper what directory to place the album one time, and bam, all albums go there from now on, or until I change the location for whatever reason. (this is a one time step, so can be kind of excluded from the list)
3. I open my version of Finder, cut (rather than copy) the album from its current location, then paste it inside of the main Music folder, and within its respective slot amongst the artist's folder etc..
4. It must be understood that there is a pre-made "Music" folder within my home directory, and within that, I have sorted my artist's folders in some hierarchal fashion. What's important is that it's all alphabetical (of course) and that my Media player of choice is going to be told which folder on my HD to search out new music folders, much like how iTunes has the "iTunes Music" folder as its default go-to folder.
5. So, now that I've dropped some new albums into the "music" folder, upon opening my media player, it is automatically set to scan that folder for new music, and then automatically adds said files to its database, and refreshes its main playlist window. If only iTunes were this simple. But it's not.
Here's what frustrates the heck out of me w/iTunes. I know that it uses the iTunes Music folder to copy folders to, but should I choose to physically drop folders or files there, the playlist will only utilize those files if I manually choose to "Add" them. Yet, at the same token.. All I have to do is drag folders in to the actual iTunes window and said files will be copied to that very same folder and will now populate the playlist window. Um, redundant ? Not only redundant and disfunctional (imo) but now I have to physically delete the other set of files which were copied, which is time consuming for one, and takes up resources, secondly. That's just one gripe.
Secondly, should I choose to delete a folder from the iTunes Music folder, I'm still going to see those files in the playlist window. This is very problematic in the case that I have tons and tons of files, and delete a lot of them, and now have to search out those which I've gotten rid of, just to physically remove them from the playlist. More redundancy, inefficiency and a waste of time. I mean, iTunes follows a database's way of working, so why would these things be so hard to make work better ?
Third: And probably the worst pet peeve. I only have a 180 gig HD in my MBP (well, it's technically a 200 gig drive but you know.. ) and only about 160 gigs left on it, and would rather not use it to store all of my music since it's quite much. Here's where streaming from an external HD would be the plan. So, I have my 250 gig HD which was being used for my older Linux box, but took it out of there. I figured it would be as simple as directing iTunes to the music directory of that HD and away it would go ! But alas, Apple doesn't want me doing this for some reason, and would rather tell my external drive to populate its self with the same exact files it already has, only to consolidate them when finished, and then leave me to delete the original files.
Um, stupid. First off, I don't even have enough room to do that. Secondly, why would this be necessary in a logical world ? Yes, yes.. it's the way it does it, and I "have to deal with it" so I've heard, but that doesn't stop it from being totally illogical and ridiculous, right ? I had thought of so many terrible things to say about the programming done on this application, but I'll save it for my own private amusement.
I've had co-workers (Mac users) tell me that I'm too picky, want too much, am anal retentive etc.. which perhaps is true, but when I hear things like, "oh, you'll love it. It's so user friendly and you can do so much with it etc.." I cringe. I understand Apple wanting to be "different", but couldn't that be done without spiting its self and cutting off it's stem ?
Ok, rant OVER. Now what I'd like to know is this:
I've heard that it MIGHT be possible to write an Applescript which would enable iTunes to do those things that I want it to do, as noted above with my notes on usage of Linux etc.. Though It may be, I'm also guessing that it's NOT possible, due to how the file structure is set up and having limited parameters to work with. I'm totally gangbusters on buying a good book in order to learn how to work with Applescripts, but I want to know if I'm wasting my time ?
My other thought is that it CAN be done. If anybody has seen or used the Music player called Cog, you'd know that this is how a music app should handle playlist population and such. It's too bad that Cog doesn't support iPod integration, because if it did, I'd wipe iTunes from my MBP in a second.
Thoughts, suggestions and help all wanted.
Thanks much.
Doug