DVD Ripping - What are you allowed to discuss?

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The forum rules at Mac-Forums (linked at the top of every forum) are very clear, we respect US law and court precedence when it comes to legality of activity.

Therefore to clarify:

  • You may not discuss breaking DVD encryption, copying, or "ripping" commercial, copy-protected DVDs.
  • This includes DVDs you own. Even if you own the DVD, it is still technically illegal under the DMCA to break the encryption. While some may argue otherwise, until the law is rewritten or the US Supreme Court strikes it down, we will adhere to the current intent of the law.
  • You may discuss ripping or copying unprotected movies or homemade DVDs.
  • You may discuss ripping or copying tools in the context that they are used for legal purposes as outlined in this post.

There are many other places online where you can go if you feel you absolutely need to discuss illegal things. We'd ask that you go there to do so.
 
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Thank you very much for adding this, I'm sure people will be glad to know this beforehand in specifics.
 
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Thanks so much. This is very helpful to me and ever.
 
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Cool info, schweb. Your post helps us all know how to reply to uhm certain kinds of posts.

Now if only the certain-kind-of-posts-posters could read this... ;D
 

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Very good info Schweb. We have to look out for our forums.
 
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Some others want to discuss topics abour DVD.

Then you're going to have to find a forum that allows you to discuss illegal behavior as you're not allowed to do so here at Mac-Forums.
 
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Some others want to discuss topics abour DVD.

We're aware the rules won't please everyone. Part of liking a forum is joining a place where the member feels comfortable so if you don't feel like you can enjoy yourself here, by all means, find a place that will suit you more. :)
 
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While I do feel that the rules are sometimes a little anal-retentive, as I am one who is happy to discuss such matters, I do appreciate why the rules are in place. I don't want Mac-Forums to become a haven for illegal activity, and if that means chopping a few conversation topics then so be it... Rep for you, schweb - not that it does much! =P
 
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I think most people will be more comfortable on this forum knowing that discussion of illegal content is not allowed, it is nice to find bits of the net that are free from bullying, racism, hacking, criminal activities and pornography.
 
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I think most people will be more comfortable on this forum knowing that discussion of illegal content is not allowed, it is nice to find bits of the net that are free from bullying, racism, hacking, criminal activities and pornography.

Me too. My solution is to just go out and buy DVDs from shops and online stores instead of stealing them. Try these:

http://www.amazon.com

http://www.play.com
 
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This forum is run by the RIAA?

If you're going to make a snide comment, at least do it right. Mentioning the MPAA would have made sense, you just look dumb by saying RIAA.


Knightlie, there are a lot of people who would like to create backups of their DVDs so that they can avoid the possibility of scratching the originals. Some people would also like to rip DVDs for devices other than their DVD players, such as iPods or even to store on their computer so that they don't have to carry around physical DVDs.

Unfortunately, doing any of these seemingly legitimate things is technically illegal under the DMCA. Making the backup or converting to a file isn't the illegal part, it's the cracking of the encryption that's been made illegal. It's kind of sadistic when you think about it. Tell people that they can do whatever they want with their movies, but then make it illegal to get to them.
 
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My solution is to just go out and buy DVDs from shops and online stores instead of stealing them.
It does not necessarily have anything to do with stealing...

If you have lots of DVD's (especially TV-series) and a huge hard drive connected to your TV (like I have), ripping the DVD's can serve both as a backup of your legally bought media, a better way of accessing your legally bought media, and as a great way of reducing junk in your living room (by storing the physical media in the attic or basement).

According to Norwegian law I'm allowed to make personal copies of artwork (such as music and film) as long as I don't distribute them to others, but of course I respect that this forum wants to follow US law.
 
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Under US copyright law, you have no right to even backup unencrypted video. Devilboy seems to be the expert on this so I'm sure he can come along and share.

Therefore, in the US, there is no "right" to make backups. I'm not saying we agree with that stance, but it is the law.
 
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Under US copyright law, you have no right to even backup unencrypted video. Devilboy seems to be the expert on this so I'm sure he can come along and share.

Therefore, in the US, there is no "right" to make backups. I'm not saying we agree with that stance, but it is the law.

That's certainly always been my understanding of it. Many people claim the "right to backup" their DVDs, but I'm not aware of it being any more legal than distributing copies.
 
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Therefore, in the US, there is no "right" to make backups. I'm not saying we agree with that stance, but it is the law.
This is true. I am not saying that I agree with it either, but the copyright laws of the U.S. do not allow for any backing up or copying (with the intent of indefinite storage) of copyrighted broadcast video/motion picture material of any kind.

For the laws regarding copyright in the U.S., you can check out the U.S. Copyright Office's web page here:

http://www.copyright.gov/
 

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