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not many places use flash too too often that isnt a stupid advertisement.
with the other better options available for flash-like effects, flash is really falling short. not many web designers I know bother with it anymore, also its not google-searchable. thats a pretty big shortcoming since no content in the flash is searchable by a search engine.
I am pretty sure itll be completely phased out within the next year or so.
Care to put some money on that ? We can put it in escrow and may the winner take the pot. In fact.. I challenge everyone here whom believes the same as you do, to put up or....
Ain't gonna happen.
Secondly, addressing your opinion that only stupid game sites or adverts are used for flash on sites. You're ENTIRELY DEAD WRONG. Period. There are legitimate professional photographers and videographers whom use Flash on their sites to make them more mainstream. I won't start quoting the usage of such said sites, as you can easily investigate such things yourself. Just because you personally have no need for such services, doesn't make them redundant.
But ya know.. I'm not even arguing against the death of Flash. Fine, let it die already.. but you guys haven't the faintest idea of what that means and what it's going to take. You're talking about a total restructuring of the web, as if it can be done over night. And that is my main point which I'll discuss more about down below after the next quoted response.
Flash should never touch the iPhone...seeing what it does to Mac's.
However i do not blame Apple for not having a solution, i blame Adobe for not being able to release something useful.
Um... nice FUD there bud. Can you and other's like you try for once to actually prove something without quoting someone else for proof ? "What it does to Mac's?" LOL that's hilarious. Nothing has EVER "happened" to either of my MacBook Pro's while running any sort of Flash site, application etc.. EVER. No slow down's, no huge resource hogging etc... So stop with the repeated mantra which you've been taught and have never even [possibly] experienced. You guys love to pretend that Flash consumes resources to the point of where it's impossible to do anything else while it's running. And you KNOW this is a lie.
And I've yet to have a "security issue" arise as an result from using Flash either.. All of these things may be "attributed" to flash on some level.. but I guarantee that there is more going on than a simple matter of visiting a website which has some Flash on it.
As for my earlier point about Flash dying. Ok, great. Let's say that Flash just totally disappears tomorrow. Now what ? You've got SO many issues to deal with before you can even begin thinking about having an alternative to Flash take over. You have the issue and debate about open source vs proprietary formats (Ogg vs some form of H.264), you have millions of products which will need to have source code (from scratch) whipped up, you've got millions of web sites that need to be re-coded to use which ever format will eventually prevail etcetera ..etcetera ... yada yada..
So... you're all waiting in LIMBO with NOTHING until at the very least, they decide which format it's going to be. And do you think that's going to take less than a year ??! Nice goin'.
In the end it doesn't matter. NONE of you will EVER get what you ask for, and if you do it's not a direct result of you having wanted it. What ever decisions take place in a board room, are made regardless of what you or I think. We have zero control at this point, and you should get used to knowing that. I am. All we can do is bicker about what we think, and it actually gets us nowhere. This is the same exact thread as the other thousand threads covering this topic. Nothing has changed or not changed because of us.
In fact... I think I'm going to vow to never talk about it again until something actually does change.
Doug