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    Quote Originally Posted by cslogg View Post
    Sorry to bring this up again but i still cannot resolve this.
    Looks like i cannot use Chrome to watch Virgin Anywhere online.
    On Firefox which is my preferred browser i can only get a small picture and no full screen.
    On Safari the selected channel does not load at all just get "loading" icon.
    It does seem to be only Virgin Anywhere that i have these problems.
    Let's start from scratch and see if we can fix the problem.

    Quit any browsers you have installed.

    Download this uninstaller, and use it to completely uninstall the copy of Flash that you currently have installed:
    http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/...er-mac-os.html

    Now download this full Flash installer from this Adobe site (instead of using the get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ site).
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub...player_osx.dmg
    Use it to install a complete fresh copy of Flash Player.

    Now, if you have Safari, make sure that Flash is enabled in Safari:
    Choose Safari menu --> Preferences
    Click the Security tab.
    Make sure that Enable JavaScript is selected.
    Make sure that Allow Plug-Ins is selected.
    Next to Allow Plug-ins, click Manage Website Settings
    Select Adobe Flash Player in the far left column.
    In the "When visiting other websites” menu, choose Allow.

    If you have Firefox, it should use the latest version of Flash that you have installed automatically. If it doesn't, you have to tell it to in:
    Firefox menu --> Preferences --> Applications

    See if that helps.
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    Did all of the above but still no progress.
    Safari is the same, just get loading screen on selecting channel.

    In Firefox ,Flash does not even appear in the Applications section you mentioned although it is in the plug ins? section and "always activate" next to it.
    Then channel does play but on a tiny screen, if I can only get the screen bigger I will be happy.
    There is an icon to make the screen bigger within the tv picture but I get no response when clicking on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cslogg View Post
    Did all of the above but still no progress.
    Okay, let's try a different tact.

    Download this free, very modern browser:

    Brave (free)
    https://www.brave.com/

    You shouldn't have to do anything to it, just run it and see how it handles the Web site you are trying to access.
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    Getting the same results with Brave as with Safari.
    only difference is in brave I do not get a "loading" message when clicking on a channel, just a blank white square.
    brave works fine with youtube and bbc iplayer though.
    Maybe its not Flash but the actual Virgin site ?

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    I an an idiot.
    Stumbled on the Firefox solution.
    I should be double not single clicking on the icon to go full screen.
    Cannot figure out the Safari problem though.
    Probably do not need Safari and Brave so will probably ditch one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cslogg View Post
    Stumbled on the Firefox solution.
    Well, I'm glad that it worked in one of the browsers you tried!

    Sometimes my experience also is that something will only play or render in one browser. That's one of the reasons that I keep a number of them installed and handy.
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    Randy in your vast experience, how much actual trouble is caused by busing genuine Flash software compared to the pages and pages of reports, type etc written about it?
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    Randy in your vast experience, how much actual trouble is caused by busing genuine Flash software compared to the pages and pages of reports, type etc written about it?
    A few years back there were a number of nasty bits of malware based on Flash, and at that time it looked like Flash was going to be an endless vector for new infections.

    To their credit, Adobe has been *excellent* about getting out updates to Flash as quickly as possible to patch against active malware and potential vulnerabilities. It's not like tons of Mac users were infected by Flash-based malware. It's more like a bit of Flash malware would show up/be identified, it would be patched a day or two later, and then it would disappear completely.

    About three years ago Apple sent out an update for the MacOS that totally disabled older, vulnerable versions of Flash, forcing folks to update to a newer version of Flash (if they decided to continue using Flash) that had very much increased security. Since then, there have been no new Flash-based malware examples released into the wild (or at least no ones that have made any headlines, because they weren't successful), and Adobe has continued to quickly update Flash as soon as they have become aware of potential vulnerabilities. Sometimes updating Flash several times in the same month.

    So, as long as you keep Flash updated (and you can set Flash to auto-update), Flash seems to be extremely secure at this point.

    However, one big problem is that there is malware (Trojan Horses, such as Genieo) that masquerades as legitimate Flash updates. Folks go to a compromised Web site, they see a pop-up that says that they need to download a Flash update, and they click on "yes," infecting themselves. Technically this isn't a Flash problem, but if you have already decided that you don't want to install Flash on your Macintosh, you probably wouldn't be tricked by this. The good news is that most of these bogus Flash updates are simply adware, rather than real malware. They don't do anything truly malicious, they just serve up ads, and they are pretty easy to remove with something like AdwareMedic or EtreCheck. And you can avoid a fake Flash installer by simply never updating Flash any way other than through Flash's System Preferences control panel (which can be set to automatic), or by downloading it directly from Adobe's Web site.

    The thing is, the call to be "Flash-free" may be a bit premature for many folks. There are a ton of Web sites that still use Flash. (Turn off Flash and visit your favorite News site, and see what happens.)
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    Thank you that is how I have read it with a lot of the 'scare' threads being quite out of date.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    Thank you that is how I have read it with a lot of the 'scare' threads being quite out of date.

    +1 agreed!!!!

    And thanks for the post Randy. Maybe some "stamp out Flash" advocates could read and heed it and maybe learn something.

    And a lot of things have changed and improved since Steve Jobs wrote his famous anti-Adobe-Flash piece. And yet, almost related, Apple still often ships new Macs with their mice configured to only work as a single-buttoned mouse, so some things seem to never change.





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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    And thanks for the post Randy. Maybe some "stamp out Flash" advocates could read and heed it and maybe learn something.
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    Well, please don't get me wrong. I do think that Flash for multimedia on Web sites should be stamped out. In fact, it is very close to being there now. If you surf the Web on an iPhone or an iPad (neither of which support Flash), it's surprising how few sites one hits that actually require Flash. Just three years ago one encountered Web sites that couldn't do without Flash routinely. In fact, it's mainly because of the iPad that so many Web sites no longer require Flash. Just after the release of the iPad, pundits thought that iPads were going to mostly replace personal computers, and Webmasters rushed to update their Web sites.

    But I don't think that Flash is a security risk at this point, and there are still plenty of Web sites that continue to require Flash. If you like the news, pron, or streaming movies, you probably should have Flash installed. I think that Flash is currently safe to use, and that one can continue to use it until there is no longer any need for it.

    Also, I don't think that Flash is going to disappear entirely. Flash is used in a lot of programs for children, for instance, and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. So don't look for Adobe to End Of Life Flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    And yet, almost related, Apple still often ships new Macs with their mice configured to only work as a single-buttoned mouse, so some things seem to never change.
    If you want to start a different thread on mice (i.e. pointing devices), I have a lot to say on the topic. I think that Apple's mice are an invitation to repetitive stress injuries. They look cool, but aren't ergonomic at all. I hear from folks all the time asking what to do about aching wrists due to using a mouse. Since my wife suffers from repetitive stress, we've tried a lot of different pointing devices and I can recommend some good ones.
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    If you want to start a different thread on mice (i.e. pointing devices), I have a lot to say on the topic.

    No thanks, but I'll agree how bad Apple's mice are, at least for my use, and just leave it at that.

    They just don't work well with my body due to some "body capacitance" or something I apparently don't have enough of.

    My Logitech wireless USB M705 Marathon Mouse and a good quality mouse pad suits me just fine thanks and it's physical buttons work as expected and I don't have to breath on my fingers to provide some body moisture the Apple mouse may seemingly need in order to work. Besides they also have too much delay and lag if and when they might decide to work.

    Anyway, enough about mice here….




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