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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    Which is why, some users here, myself included, recommend using a Standard User account, and only using an Admin User account when needed.
    When the software, like Flash, requires admin user account and password, logging in with a standard user account is little use. The OS will prompt the end user to enter the admin account credentials. If the malware is any good, it'll capture the admin credentials as they are entered right then.

    That's not to say I disagree with you about logging in with standard user account. Quite the opposite, On my system, I do it regardless if it is macOS, Windows, or Linux. I also set up my clients with Mac on the same way. However, doing so provides limited protection since it is bypassed by the end user if and when software is installed...

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    Good point about using a Standard account. It's OK to use it but as noted, an admin password is required to do certain installations and updates. And any malware that wants to be installed has to go thru an admin which means entering the password anyway.

    Using a standard account in Windows is good procedure but I'm not so sure it's really needed when running OS X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Using a standard account in Windows is good procedure but I'm not so sure it's really needed when running OS X.
    In my view, standard account is a good practice on both platform...

    The user account control will pop up on both platforms, if and when admin account credentials are required. This is a nag, especially at the time the end user knowingly installs software. On the other hand, if and when malware downloaded through the browser and tries to install itself, at least the pop up will be an alert for the end user. This will take place regardless, if the standard or admin account logged in. The difference is that, if the admin is logged in and the pop up is suppressed, the malware can continue installing itself. While I doubt that there's a malware that would suppress the pop up on the macOS, there are number of them on the Windows platform. As more and more malware converted for macOS, including the suppressing account control pop up will make its way there too.

    Just my opinion on the subject...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Knockoff View Post
    Just wondered bcuz the 2016 mbp is so ludicrously expensive, despite the removal of a SD card and USB-C slots and magsafe!
    Using United States pricing. I would agree that the 2016 13" MBP has increased quite a bit vs. earlier releases. I would disagree about the 2016 15" MBP being more expensive...it's actually less expensive than the previous four 15" MBP releases.

    - Entry Level 13" 2016 MBP = $1799
    - Entry Level 13" 2015 MBP = $1299
    - Entry Level 13" 2014 MBP = $1299
    - Entry Level 13" 2013 MBP = $1299

    - Entry Level 15" 2016 MBP with dual graphics = $2399
    - Entry Level 15" 2015 MBP with dual graphics = $2499
    - Entry Level 15" 2014 MBP with dual graphics = $2499
    - Entry Level 15" 2013 MBP with dual graphics = $2599
    - Entry Level 15" 2012 MBP with dual graphics = $2599

    In either case...I'm not sure I would use the term "ludicrously expensive". There are numbers a lot larger than these. "Ludicrously Expensive" (to me) for a 13" MBP would be something like $50,000! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Using United States pricing. I would agree that the 2016 13" MBP has increased quite a bit vs. earlier releases. I would disagree about the 2016 15" MBP being more expensive...it's actually less expensive than the previous four 15" MBP releases.

    - Entry Level 13" 2016 MBP = $1799
    - Entry Level 13" 2015 MBP = $1299
    - Entry Level 13" 2014 MBP = $1299
    - Entry Level 13" 2013 MBP = $1299

    - Entry Level 15" 2016 MBP with dual graphics = $2399
    - Entry Level 15" 2015 MBP with dual graphics = $2499
    - Entry Level 15" 2014 MBP with dual graphics = $2499
    - Entry Level 15" 2013 MBP with dual graphics = $2599
    - Entry Level 15" 2012 MBP with dual graphics = $2599

    In either case...I'm not sure I would use the term "ludicrously expensive". There are numbers a lot larger than these. "Ludicrously Expensive" (to me) for a 13" MBP would be something like $50,000! lol

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    I've purchased my 2013 MBP for US$1,499.00 at the end of 2013, the price difference was due to extending the memory to 8GB and 256GB PCIe-based Flash Storage. There was no Windows based laptops that had PCIe storage option and not many with the SSD option back in 2013. The latter one had been more expensive than the MBP by anywhere between $300-500, for the same or 512GB storage, depending on the OEM. While I did not want a MBP, the PCIe storage made my decision easier. That, and I had some clients lining up, who had Macs.

    Fast forward to 2016, and to some extent to 2017, where the MBP didn't receive much hardware improvement, if any. The price increase of 500 bucks for the 13" with touch bar is not justified in my view ("Ludicrously Expensive"), other than paying the Apple-tax. At the same time, OEMs, did catch up with Apple. Windows laptop hardware with PCIe storage option in addition to touch screen, similar to my 2013 MCP, can be had for ~1,200 bucks (US $). I am not certain what Apple intends to do with the MBP, other than pricing the MBP out of the market. I for one rather get a Windpows laptop with similare hard for less, much less...

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    There was an interesting article today in the Macworld Daily update comparing the latest Apple notebook computers to the popular Microsoft Surface Pro models. They compared hardware and also prices and value. The latest Apple MacBook Pros were definitely one up on the MS machines, however, they are about $300 to $500 more expensive.

    I was in our local Staples store this afternoon browsing around and looking at the latest laser printers. I had a chance to look over the latest Dells, HP, and the Surface Pro models. (This particular Staples does not carry Apple computers, only the iPads.) I have to admit I was impressed with the HP models and what they had to offer for the price. The only thing that turned me off very quickly was Windows 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    There was an interesting article today in the Macworld Daily update comparing the latest Apple notebook computers to the popular Microsoft Surface Pro models. They compared hardware and also prices and value. The latest Apple MacBook Pros were definitely one up on the MS machines, however, they are about $300 to $500 more expensive.
    And that price difference may disappear, if an when the display option is changed. For example, the very nice and comparable to MBP Dell XPS default display is 1920x1080 or FHD. Choose the optional 3200x1800 (QHD), that's a $300 option. It's the same that OEMs did with SSDs and later with the PCIe storage option. Do you want something that is really good? Well, pay up... By now, the SSD/PCIe storage options are pretty much becoming a standard. Once the QHD display option becomes the default, the Windows laptops will be no brainier.

    That's not to say that the default display is bad. It's just that nowadays the default display option is too old in my view...

    I was in our local Staples store this afternoon browsing around and looking at the latest laser printers. I had a chance to look over the latest Dells, HP, and the Surface Pro models. (This particular Staples does not carry Apple computers, only the iPads.) I have to admit I was impressed with the HP models and what they had to offer for the price. The only thing that turned me off very quickly was Windows 10.
    The applications determine the platform first and foremost, the personal preference comes in second. I use both platforms, but my preference is the Mac for number of reasons. On the other hand, if you remove all of the "telemetry functions" from Windows 10 Pro, it is just as fast as the MBP. I have a 5 years old Thinkpad pro with Windows 10 Pro that starts up just as fast, if not faster than my MBP from 2013...

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    I am sure I'm not alone in already having Adobe Flash. If I were to delete it would that remove the hidden malware if it's there. I think I downloaded it originally from Adobe and likewise all the updates but can't be certain.

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    Just make sure it is up to date, currently version 25.0.00.171.
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    I think it was me not 'Ashwin' who posted a question about Flash Player. My post has now vanished. There were 2 Flash Players showing on my desktop. The only option was eject so I tried dragging it to the trash but it didn't seem to be visible there. Anyway I found Flash manager and uninstalled Flash from there.

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    The two Flash players that you saw were probably disk images. This is a common way of distributing software. Dragging them into the trash is the same as using that method to eject disks. When that method is used they do not appear in the trash.

    As to whether these were legitimate downloads. There no way to know if they were legit now.
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    I need help with this one.
    I have an imac with latest os running Safari and Firefox browser.
    Following advice I uninstalled Flash.
    Trouble is when running my Virgin Media channels I am getting no picture.
    Reinstalled Flash and picture returns.
    Again following advice I installed Chrome and updated its version of Flash but again no picture.
    All i am seeing where the picture should be is what looks like a broken picture in the top left picture.
    So i cannot yet get rid of Flash.

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    There are many sites that still depend on Flash to show videos. In most cases, running the latest version of Chrome will get you what you need, but you have to make sure that Flash is enabled in Chrome..

    In Chrome, go to Settings by hitting CMD+, and then click Show Advanced Settings at the bottom. Now click on Content Settings under the Privacy section. The fifth option in the pop-up should be Flash and see what your setting is. Mine is Block sites from running Flash with a few exceptions.

    You would like add the Virgin Media as an exception.

    I also have Adblock and uBlock Origin running to block ads, so while Flash videos will play on some sites, all ads (Flash or otherwise) are blocked..
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    I have followed your settings but now i am getting "device could not be detected" message when clicking to watch a Virgin channel.

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    Sorry to bring this up again but i still cannot resolve this.
    Looks like i cannot use Chrome to watch Virgin Anywhere online.
    On Firefox which is my preferred browser i can only get a small picture and no full screen.
    On Safari the selected channel does not load at all just get "loading" icon.
    It does seem to be only Virgin Anywhere that i have these problems.

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