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    Whoa! Judgmental? Way off base there. I said subscription software doesn't make sense for me because of my buying habits. I even used a smilie about the car; only teasing. Jake, I do care that it makes sense for you. Knowing why helps me understand other perspectives.

    Yeah, we gave away a 12 year old car once too. It was still in good condition mechanically, and only a few cosmetic flaws.

    To reiterate, yes, to each his own. That's why my post stated my practice. It did not criticize anyone else for having a different practice.

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    Well I will throw in my 2 cents. I prefer to pay for a package one time. That said there is a growing trend for subscription services. I do get why they are doing it. A guaranteed revenue stream, easier to keep security holes plugged, and new updates/features disbursement.

    I use adobe creative suite. Until recently I was clinging to CS6 hoping to milk many more years out of it. This past year I had an HD project come in and found CS6 would not handle it. I was missing a codex. I downloaded a trial of CC and when I imported the video it immediately downloaded the codex I needed and I could now start editing. I ended up getting a subscription. I don't like it but I have to have it so I suck it.

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    I downloaded a trial of CC and when I imported the video it immediately downloaded the codex I needed and I could now start editing. I ended up getting a subscription.
    I see nothing wrong with subscribing to software that's needed to do your job. We use some fairly expensive church software in our ministry which recently has gone to a quasi subscription scheme. Subscribing offers more features and better support, however, after weighing that with using what we already have and knowing that we will not get all the bells and whistles, we decided to keep using our already paid for software.

    But it does look like the big developers are all trending toward the subscription scheme: Microsoft, Adobe, Faithlife, Corel, and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    I see nothing wrong with subscribing to software that's needed to do your job. We use some fairly expensive church software in our ministry which recently has gone to a quasi subscription scheme. Subscribing offers more features and better support, however, after weighing that with using what we already have and knowing that we will not get all the bells and whistles, we decided to keep using our already paid for software.

    But it does look like the big developers are all trending toward the subscription scheme: Microsoft, Adobe, Faithlife, Corel, and others.
    I agree. I just have trouble moving to a monthly fee for software I was use to paying for only if I chose to upgrade the version but I could still get patches for the version I was using. I would upgrade only if the newer version had a feature I needed. In years to come I believe that for people new to using software - Adobe CC, Microsoft Office, etc - subscription fees will be the norm for them. Only long time users (read: old farts ) will remember and lament the old days of one time purchase software.

    We do use a subscription based online service to track our members information, organized ministry participation, sign-in for kids and youth, online giving and a few more things I have forgotten. It is not a cheap service. I was not on staff at the time so I wasn't involved in it's selection. They had lost their prior member database due to an inadequate in house backup system so they wanted a better solution guaranteed to not fail. AND as long as the internet is working .... and the company is not doing any upgrades to the service .... we are good to go!

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    My theory is that if companies are moving to a subscription model, there's only one reason: to make more money. That, of course, means that customers are sacrificing more of theirs. I use Excel files that I wrote/created to "keep the books" for our church as well. I've never had an issue by not keeping up with the latest upgrade. I'll just get the security updates until Excel won't run on the latest (free upgrade now) OS. I didn't miss out on anything by not buying Office for Mac 2008 that I know of, and am happily still using 2011.

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    I won't buy subscription software. Either sell it to me, or I'll buy something else. No worries, no hard feelings. I also won't buy most things that lock me into someone else's cloud ie: someone else's hardware, admin staff and software. I like control over my stuff, or at least the illusion of it. I get mad enough relying on Apple to sync my calendars from my phone to my home computer, I'd be through the roof if my home security system didn't let me save locally or record if the internet was down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ember1205 View Post
    The subscription model has come about because software companies have to keep their revenues up. One "benefit" to the consumer from a subscription model is the lower buy-in price and another is "constant updates". To me, however, I do not / will not use subscription services. There's NO WAY that my data is going to end up being "held hostage" because their system goes down or doesn't credit a payment I made, or whatever. I have some items that require pieces "in the cloud" to be operational and that infuriates me. I don't NEED their systems in order to access my devices and such inside of my home, so why am I forced to use their systems (and these are devices that I'm -NOT- paying for on a subscription basis).
    My thoughts exactly. Except I would pay to subscribe to software that I require a lot of technical support for. Like the crappy software we use at work (management bought it, employees are stuck with it). The support is better if they know you have to renew every so often.
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    Im debt free and want to stay that way, so monthly bills/payments don't work for me. I prefer to buy a program one time and keep it for as many years as I can get out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macgig View Post
    Im debt free and want to stay that way, so monthly bills/payments don't work for me. I prefer to buy a program one time and keep it for as many years as I can get out of it.
    Technically you are only in debt if you miss a payment - but I agree with you about buying once and keeping it.
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    soon as you borrow money you're in debt. even if you can make the payments. you sign papers for a $200,000 house, you borrowed money and made a promise to pay that money back over time. that is debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macgig View Post
    soon as you borrow money you're in debt. even if you can make the payments. you sign papers for a $200,000 house, you borrowed money and made a promise to pay that money back over time. that is debt.
    No, that's life for most of us who can't afford to lay down $200K cash for a house! LOL.

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    I don't necessarily mind buying software on a subscription model as long as it provides added value each time I renew it. I use PHPStorm as my development IDE, and that's probably the first major piece of software I've purchased sold on a subscription model. What made the decision easier for me is their perpetual fallback licensing, which allows you to continue using the same version of PHPStorm that was released at the time you bought your subscription after it expires a year later, even if you choose not to renew.

    Adobe CC on the other hand - well we all know why they switched that to a subscription model. It might be cheaper month-by-month, but it's stable regular income for Adobe and a lot more over time between each customer. Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo from Serif are very compelling alternatives that don't use a subscription model. I'm just hoping Adobe don't try and buy Serif out in an effort to limit competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawday View Post
    Technically you are only in debt if you miss a payment - but I agree with you about buying once and keeping it.
    In the instance to which this is referencing, that is absolutely correct.

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    depends on the app. If I know that I will be using this app for a long time (for ex., image editors or file downloaders), I prefer one time purchase. If I will need this app just once (like I needed an app to move files from my Android to iPhone when switching) - subscription is better.

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