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    EDIT: and remember this thread exists for those who own and enjoy firearms, not for a running argument on the merits of guns and gun ownership. So keep it civil, and respect our members with differing views.
    +1 to what Mike said. We understand that our forums have members who live in other parts of the world where local laws and customs are different from ours here in the US. You may disagree with our laws and customs or who we elect to the office of the President, and that's fine as long as you keep that kind of opinion to yourself. It does not belong here. There are other forums where religion and politics are discussed. If you wish to get into that type of discussion, you can always find a place to express your opinions, but not here. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawday View Post
    Interesting graph on today's BBC.co.uk. And still the USA thinks carrying guns is a good idea.

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    Actually, the firearms homicide rate for the US in 2014 was 3.4%. In 2016 it was 3.5%. The overall homicide rate was ~10%.

    Honestly, I don't really care how firearms or overall homicide rate stacks up with the UK or anyone else. Beyond being an entirely different country with differing social history, economic conditions and completely differing legal systems, the UK Home Office records a death as a homicide once someone has been convicted of the death in court ie: murders are reported relative to their being solved and in the year they are solved. The US reports homicides when they occur, and whether or not they are solved, and in relation to the deceased not to the convicted. One of many differences in this regard which makes comparison almost impossible. Japan counts a murder-suicide (dad kills mom and two kids) as one suicide, not 1 suicide and 3 murders. It's almost pointless, an definitely disingenuous, to make comparisons to support an agenda without a huge number of qualifiers and admitting some completely irreconcilable data points.

    And that's about all I'm going to say, again, on this ridiculous tangent.
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    I think that when a question is put out as this has been and I live in a totally different life style it's only natural for me to ask why?

    I have not tried to question or critisise anyone's sulture and if it's come over that way it wasn't intentional. All I was interested in is the difference. It is and will remain a mistry as to why it is necessary carry a weapon of any kind in daily life unless you are in the armed forces?

    I think that I will stick to the forums outside the Schwebs, it's safer. I think that is a shame to have to think that way?
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    Earlier today we were coming home form shopping and passed a Sapeur Pompier ambulance and a SAMU doctors car going in the opposite direction. The Sap Pomps are medic/firefighters and SAMU are the emergency docs. Not too uncommon. But on leaving the small town we passed a sign on the side of the road announcing that the local hunters were about with their shotguns and high powered rifles and to beware! Within a few yards there was a blue flashing light at the back of a feild on the left and all sorts of activity around it. A classic situation where a 'hunter' has shot someone that dared to move while he was in the area!

    We dare not walk in the countryside anywhere away from the roads between the end of October and end of Feb! This is when the the hunters comandere the countryside and they are a VERY small % of the population. Not just us expats who complain either. The French are getting totally pissed off with the idiots who start their day with a brandy breakfast and a wine lunch while they are shooting at anything that moves in between times.

    So you on the other side of the pond are not alone with idiots with bang sticks, but you appear to have a greater % with them it seems to my untrained eye?

    The previous post was done before this incident and I thought it appropriate to renage on what I said before, this time.
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    Jonzjob I suspect you are blessed with the gift of embellishment and wonderfully so!
    I live in the Great State of Maine and we have our yearly hunting seasons usually without incident or nearly so. There have been no fatalities in the past several years to the best of my knowledge.
    I can't speak for the French (well actually I do speak french) but it seems a little education is called for here!

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    We've had 22 hunting fatalities in Minnesota in the last 10 years. Less than 1/2 were firearms related. On top of that are about 20 hunting-related injuries each year, again less than 1/2 firearms-related. That is in relation to the 700,000 - 800,000 permits issued each year. Feel free to peruse the data on the MN DNR hompage.
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    The "Spirit" of this thread is for those members that enjoy the ownership of firearms (regardless of their geography)...where they can freely discuss the hobby...and for folks possibily looking to purchase thier first firearm. It is NOT a thread for debating the sociological merits, morals, ethics, legality, etc. of firearm ownership.

    If this were a I like to collect beer mugs, I like to collect thimbles, I like to collect old coins, etc. thread,...it would mostly be for folks that enjoy these hobbies. Not for non-interested folks to comment on the merits, legality, or enjoyment factor.

    From this point forward it would be appreciated that if someone is not a firearm enjoying person...to please refrain from posting a reply. This way the spirit of the thread can be maintained...and the firearm enjoying folks posting to the thread can feel safe that they will not be judged or feel the need to defend thier hobby.

    Non-hobbyist posts from this point forward will be deleted. Thus please don't take the time to create a post that will ultimately be removed.

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    So... anyone else like wheel guns? I have a pile of semi-autos, but the ones I really love the most are my wheel guns - mainly out of production S&W revolvers:

    Below we have:
    a 442-1 .38+P (still made but the no lock variants seem to be tough to find sometimes)
    a 65-3 "Ladysmith" .357 Mag (all my guns are ladies)
    a 19-3 .357 Mag (pinned and recessed last model)


    They aren't collector grade condition because I shoot my guns!

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    I've always been partial to the Ruger single action (Blackhawk) line. Only owned .22 and .40 Mag in that, and currently have neither. In fact was intending to purchase a .357 Ruger Blackhawk when I ended out with the .45 S&W ACP
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    I'm guessing you either had a .41 or .44 mag. If it was indeed a .40 it was one of a kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquanel View Post
    I'm guessing you either had a .41 or .44 mag. If it was indeed a .40 it was one of a kind.
    You would be correct. I meant to type .41 and thought I had (too lazy to proofread I guess).
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    For myself, I have a BB/pellet rifle & pistol - mainly in the past to shoot dogs getting into our garbage cans - no longer an issue.

    Now, I love the history of guns & weaponry and have watched and own a number of videos on the subject - plus, when visiting museums and historic sites w/ weapons, I can spend hours (much to my wife's chagrin) looking - most recently in Little Rock, Arkansas looking at a Jim Bowie exhibit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianwmay View Post
    if you NEED to carry, then you are spending time in the wrong places.
    So you don't go to movies, or church, or concerts, or even schools. You must lead a pretty secluded life. My point is you don't know when of where you might need it.

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    You're responding to someone who posted that a long time ago. Please watch the dates of a post before you reply. Thanks.

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