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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
    Hey,

    So I just upgraded to Snow Leopard (I know, took me long enough) and I created a partition with Boot Camp. Now it tells me to insert the Windows CD and continue, so I insert a 32-bit Windows 7 disc and it restarts.

    I then get a black screen, it shows the "Loading Windows" bar at the bottom, that fills up in about a minute, then it shows the Black screen with the coloured logo saying "Starting Windows" or something. Then it goes black, and stays that way.

    I noticed most threads mention a black screen, but it was after Windows actually installed. I'm not even getting that far. I've spent the whole day looking at threads and trying stuff, but so far, no luck.

    Please help me! I'm missing out on so many good games for PC on Steam...

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
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    Is it a full retail version of Windows 7?

    Did you format the bootcamp partition as NTFS?
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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
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    When inserting a Windows 7 DVD to install, as you rightly say it should have a white bar that loads in around a minute, but after that it should get to a screen with a window asking for you to select your language and location, then on to installing or repairing windows. If it is going to the windows logo saying starting windows, then there is something wrong, usually an error it encounters when trying to boot from the DVD.
    Check your DVD for scratches etc, also like mrplow says make sure you have a full retail version.
    If all is good, my first suggestion would be to start OSX remove the boot camp partition, restart OSX, then recreate the boot camp and try again.
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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    It is a full retail version of Windows 7 Home Premium. Ir formatted the way Boot Camp formats it, which I think is MS-DOS (FAT32).

    I don't think it is an issue with the disk, I've tried both the 32-bit and 64-bit, but I'm sure I can only run the 32-bit version on this Mac from memory when I did it about a year ago.

    I removed the partition with Boot Camp, reset the Mac, partitioned and installed again with the same issue. 'Windows is loading files' with the white bar, then the Logo saying 'Starting Windows' then the black screen of death.

    At least Microsoft have moved away from just using the blue screen for that.

    Do I have to format my Mac? I'd prefer not do that.

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
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    For windows 7, as per the boot camp install guide, you need to format the bootcamp partition, within the windows install routine, as NTFS.
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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    themselves obseser
    mrplow, I cant get in to the windows install routine. It doesn't go that far...

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
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    OK.

    Sounds like you may have an issue with the disc.

    Do you have access to another Windows machine? If so install nLite and recreate the install disc. Any copy errors to/from the disc during this process will let you know it's a disc issue.

    Alternatively you could install VirtualBox. It's free and lets you install Windows in a virtual machine on your Mac. Don't enter a serial number during the install (you get 28 to do this on Windows 7). Just see if the install runs through. If it does you can rule out the disc issue and it must be something else.
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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    Yeah, it's working well with VirtualBox. Would I just be better off using that?

    But, now we know it's not the disc...

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    VBox works great. That should suit your needs unless you have an application that absolutely requires full native access to your graphics adapter (e.g., video processing, high-end games, etc.)

    Cheers

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    Darn, the reason I was doing it was to get some PC games off Steam. I'll try a game out and see. But any other suggestions to duel boot would be great!

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    Any other ideas?

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowproduct View Post
    Any other ideas?
    Reading through this thread it appears that the problem is related to the video graphics. Note that when Boot Camp first creates a partition it is not formatted - that comes later when you begin the Windows installation. Which it appears that you can not do.

    Have you thought about using Windows XP instead? XP is much less resource intensive and actually easier to install. I've got Windows 7 running from a Boot Camp partition and XP from a VM with Fusion. Although the VM can't run games, I like XP better.

    If you don't already own an eligible copy of XP it would mean having to buy one - and it isn't cheap. An OEM system builder's full install of XP SP3 is going to cost around $95 to $100 depending on where you buy it from.

    Sorry I can't be more help with this.

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    I'll try borrow a copy to see if it works before I commit to a purchase, but I'll also point out again that I have had Windows 7 running on this machine before, so I'm not sure why it wont work now...

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    Trouble with installing Windows 7 with Bootcamp, before it even installs!

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    Solution
    Solution

    I have a macmini bought in mid2011 with OS Lion on it. AS it doesnot come with an optical drive, I bought an LG DVD drive and used the windows 7 (64bit) installation DVD. It stopped at windows is loading files....

    I tired couple of other options like using flash dirve but it dint work.

    The I went to Apple's Genius Bar, and they put the installation dvd into their dvd drive (by Apple). Then the windows installed perfectly fine.

    When asked they said it must be the problem of DVD and I found out that it actually is the cause. Apple products require dual layer optical drives but in general the optical drives we buy can only read single layer dvds. So I got to fix the problem by borrowing their dvd drive in genius bar and now i m good to go.....

    Hope this helps

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