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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    Why not, especially figuring you like having redundant backups and I sure don't know of anything wrong with that.
    But I would do a zero-out (security wipe option) that would map out any possible bad sectors.

    Good valid question Dave.

    Regardless of a drive's MTBF rating, I've always understood that the power-on part of any electronics always takes the biggest toll and I don't really know how that relates.

    But you've already covered your failure odds by having multiple backups — as long as they get TESTED TO WORK and are kept fairly current.

    PS: SMART Status is just basically an educated estimate based on some various known functions or failures. And I've never had a hard drive that has failed give me any sort of SMART type warning, at least not with the normal software/utilities I have used.

    All I do know is sooner or later they are NOT going to function properly if at all!!
    Thanks Patrick for your comments above - I'll proceed as explained previously w/ redundant CCC clones and will test more often w/ a reboot from the cloned HDs.

    Past few days, I've been looking for information on HD failure rates relative to use (i.e. constant vs. intermittent) - this recent ARTICLE quotes a lot of Backblaze data, and also suggests that how the HD is used makes little difference based on a Google study (see quote below), however, that study HERE is 10 years old (i.e. data still reliable vs. modern HDs?). Dave

    Conventional wisdom would have you believe hard drives that get hot will generally fail faster than those that don’t. Some studies conclude as much, but the largest study on the subject matter to date performed by Google suggests otherwise. You might also assume that hard drives which are used more fail quicker than those used less. Not so, says Google:

    “Contrary to previously reported results, we found very little correlation between failure rates and either elevated temperature or activity levels.”
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    Thanks Patrick for your comments above - I'll proceed as explained previously … …
    Past few days, I've been looking for information on HD failure rates relative to use

    Does it really even matter Dave or are you just interested in gambling odds and facts and like spending your time on such things…???

    We all know, or should by now, that ALL data storage drives are going to fail at some point and it's NOT a matter of IF.

    And do test regularly any backup you do have, that they work properly.




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    Dave no disrespect here but it seems like your actions in the first instance were a bit excessive.
    This ransomware you describe just exactly what form did it take?
    I ask because I have occasionally come up agaisnt things like "your computer has been locked by the FBI" for visiting this site or even "All of your files are now locked, do not attempt to close your browser, etc etc. In all cases money was the demand. These examples were from some time ago and at the time they were pretty scary. The last one I received was about a year ago and since then I have been using a VPN and Ghostery full time. This one claimed to have encrypted all my files and demanded a bit coin payment to unlock them. It also warned me not to try to quit my browser.
    So this is what I did;
    Turned off my wifi.
    Used Clean My Mac to remove my Firefox browser(this is why I don't use safari for general browsing). A complete removal of all files associated with the app was performed.
    I then ran the auto clean script to ensure system cache and other trash was removed.
    I restarted my MBP, downloaded a new version of Firefox, logged into Mozilla, reloaded my bookmarks, extensions and settings.
    All good.
    I did rum Malwarebytes as well with no results.
    I too have a couple of CCC clones and a TM backup so although I was pretty confident I could recover I was sweating for while there. Especially when I found that I could not exit the Ransomware page initially.
    The point is once I removed the internet connection I was able to quit the browser which was reassuring and everything else "seemed" ok.
    I suppose what I'm saying is don't panic if you encounter this stuff. There is a lot of "Scareware" out there that mimics real Ransomware.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    Dave no disrespect here but it seems like your actions in the first instance were a bit excessive.
    This ransomware you describe just exactly what form did it take?
    I ask because I have occasionally come up agaisnt things like "your computer has been locked by the FBI" for visiting this site or even "All of your files are now locked, do not attempt to close your browser, etc etc. In all cases money was the demand. These examples were from some time ago and at the time they were pretty scary. The last one I received was about a year ago and since then I have been using a VPN and Ghostery full time. This one claimed to have encrypted all my files and demanded a bit coin payment to unlock them. It also warned me not to try to quit my browser.
    So this is what I did;
    Turned off my wifi.
    Used Clean My Mac to remove my Firefox browser(this is why I don't use safari for general browsing). A complete removal of all files associated with the app was performed.
    I then ran the auto clean script to ensure system cache and other trash was removed.
    I restarted my MBP, downloaded a new version of Firefox, logged into Mozilla, reloaded my bookmarks, extensions and settings.
    All good.
    I did rum Malwarebytes as well with no results.
    I too have a couple of CCC clones and a TM backup so although I was pretty confident I could recover I was sweating for while there. Especially when I found that I could not exit the Ransomware page initially.
    The point is once I removed the internet connection I was able to quit the browser which was reassuring and everything else "seemed" ok.
    I suppose what I'm saying is don't panic if you encounter this stuff. There is a lot of "Scareware" out there that mimics real Ransomware.s
    Hi Rod - well thanks for your concern but not teaching me much at all at this point - done and know most of what you have described - I made a decision to alter my HD, either by using cloned software which did not work as already explained, and then using the recovery options, again explained previously. This was vicious 'ransomware' (asking for $$ and offering a phone number) that did not respond to my previous solutions - doing what I did eliminated the issue w/o calling and paying - I'm happy w/ my results, which I do not feel need to be subject to apparent insults. Dave
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    Sorry you took it that way. Perhaps you did not read my first sentence, "Dave no disrespect here," which is why I asked what form did the Ransomware take. Eg. Did it actually lock your device or did it just say it had.
    Also I would like you to understand that what I Post is not just for you but anyone who may read the thread.
    You would not be the first person to take a "Sledgehammer" approach to what amounted to be a hoax.
    It may be that you had no alternative or simply decided to take that approach which is entirely up to you.
    I am not nor have I ever been accused of being a troll.
    I am sitting at home with a compound fracture to my right collar bone trying to fill my time by being helpful to people.

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    I am sitting at home with a compound fracture to my right collar bone trying to fill my time by being helpful to people.
    Hey Rod... you're getting a bit old to be playing football aren't you? How in the world did you fracture your collar bone? - Hopefully you're OK and will get well soon. We were wondering why you hadn't been posting lately.

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    How in the world did you fracture your collar bone? -
    I sure hope it wasn't playing that crazy Aussie ball game they play down there. H*ll, it looks like it can kill you. (So says an old rugby player of eons ago.)

    Next choice, bailing out from a motorbike… ???





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    It was the motorbike. Well picked Patrick.
    Thanks for the well wishes. I only have my iPhone at the moment so I'm a bit limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    It was the motorbike. Well picked Patrick.
    Thanks for the well wishes. I only have my iPhone at the moment so I'm a bit limited.


    Bummer, but at least you're alive and it could have been worse I'm sure.

    I'm an old biker from way back as you probably guessed.

    Anyway, heal and get better soon and I hear Aussie beer and barbies help.




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    Thanks Patrick, as it is I live in Bali, Indonesia these days (Aussie Expat) but beer and BBQ's still help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    Thanks Patrick, as it is I live in Bali, Indonesia these days (Aussie Expat) but beer and BBQ's still help.

    OK and thanks.

    I took a look at some of the photos of Ubud, Bali, Indonesia in Google Maps and it seems to be quite a different and varied place to live. Neat.




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    Yep, Ubud is where I'm at.

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