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01-01-2016, 10:18 PM #1

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el capitan kills connection to apple external dvdJust want Everyone to know, I replaced my internal optical dvd drive with an SSD in my 2011 macbook pro. Put the internal optical drive into an external case. It worked fine until I upgraded from Yosemite to el capitan. Just came from the genius bar where I was informed that el capitan installed (?) firmware that cannot be uninstalled and it pretty much kills any connection to an apple external optical drive. My macbook pro will no longer play dvds from my once internal/now external apple drive. The mac now will not allow any apple external drive to work. (error -70012) VLC will not work either. And you can't override anything in the system to change its search for internal dvd drive to external -- No matter what!
Nice, Apple. Thanks for the lack of any warning. Now I have to buy a new third party drive to access my dvds. It's not like Apple benefits from this. Buying another Apple drive to solve the problem won't work. I tried to use my daughter's oem external apple drive an no dice.
If you are on Yosemite or lower and have an external apple dvd drive -- DON'T UPGRADE TO EL CAPITAN or your external drive will no longer work.
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01-01-2016, 10:21 PM #2

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Why not report that as a bug so that they can have the engineers develop a fix (though admittedly the number of people who would find themselves in your exact situation is quite small). I think what the Apple geniuses were saying is that the firmware for an Apple internal drive depends on it being actually in the machine, and won't work with an external case (though any external DVD drive should work fine). That's a bit odd, but of course they could not anticipate that people would (like you and I both did) remove the internal DVD drive for more SSD/HD storage, so I can see where the flaw came from.
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01-01-2016, 10:46 PM #3

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el capitan kills connection to apple external dvdThanks Chas_m for your comment. But wouldn't a visit to the genius bar (2x) and their assessment suffice to report the bug? Oh, I suppose not. I don't have the slightest idea how to report the bug, but by the time they institute a fix, I will have already been forced to buy a new drive. I need this now and can't wait for the wheels of bureaucracy to turn.
Still, it's nice to know I'm not alone here. So until Apple figures this out (and maybe decides it's worth fixing), a heads up to anyone else before upgrading.
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01-01-2016, 10:48 PM #4

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Yes, thanks for letting us know. Sorry that happened -- at least the external DVD burner should cost very much (under $50 if you shop around).
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01-02-2016, 04:10 AM #5

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I can confirm that if an external DVD drive worked in, say, Mavericks, it will still work fine in El Capitan.
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01-02-2016, 09:52 AM #6

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01-02-2016, 10:19 AM #7

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Well, I would agree w/ Ian - my MBPro is on El Capitan (10.11.2) and I've owned an external Apple SuperDrive for nearly 3 years which worked fine on the laptop w/ previous operating systems - just attached the USB optical drive and started a commercial DVD movie w/o a problem - now, I have not tried to 'burn' any CD-Rs (my main reason for using the device). Dave
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01-02-2016, 10:58 AM #8

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RadDave, So did your laptop ever have an internal dvd drive or did it come without and you've always used the external? Apple says the issue comes from having an original internal dvd drive and then trying to use an external. The laptop will only recognize an internal if that's the way it came. If your laptop originally came with an internal dvd drive and you removed it (which is what I did) and your external apple drive works then something else is going on here.
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01-02-2016, 11:41 AM #9

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I will agree with tonythenose to a certain extent. My MBP had an internal DVD which I replaced with an SSD. Now iDVD won't find the same drive in an external enclosure to play DVDs. I can play DVDs in VLC, so the system CAN read the drive, but iDVD won't play. At one time there was a hex edit to a file that would enable the use of an external drive in a system that had had an internal, but I don't remember where it was. Each update to the OS overwrote the file, so it needed to be re-edited each time. I haven't tried it in ElCap so I don't know if SIP will block the hack or not. I'll do some research to see if I can find the hex edit. It was simple, too, there are four instances where the word "internal" needed to be changed to "external" and iDVD worked just fine.
As I recall, the change was made in Mavericks.
EDIT: Wow, that didn't take much to find: http://www.cnet.com/news/addressing-...rives-in-os-x/
UPDATE: Sadly, SIP seems to be blocking the hack. I can copy the framework to the desktop, edit the file as needed, but even using CLI and sudo, I can't copy the edited file back to the original location. I won't disable SIP, but for the OP, if this is more important than security, then disabling SIP may allow you to put the file back into the library after editing it.
UPDATE #2. I forgot to mention that VLC plays DVDs from the eternal just fine. Haven't tried to get it to full screen, but he dvd did load and play.Last edited by MacInWin; 01-02-2016 at 12:19 PM.
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01-02-2016, 11:47 AM #10

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01-02-2016, 12:04 PM #11

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I 100% agree with Jake and had it happen here even way back. The URL Jake provided at least was a fix that worked at one time.
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01-02-2016, 12:32 PM #12

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01-02-2016, 03:05 PM #13

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UPDATE: Well I reset the SMC on my laptop and now I got VLC to play a dvd.
I've sent Apple a bug report and we'll see if they do anything, but at least I don't have to buy a new dvd player! But I don't think I can burn dvds so I still have to figure that out.
Thanks to everyone for their kind comments and input.
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01-02-2016, 05:05 PM #14

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