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    How to start an iCloud backup on my Mac?
    I just updated my iMac and I now have the iCloud settings in my system preferences, I have everything set up and ready to go, there is just one thing, how do I actually initiate a backup? There is no 'start backup' or anything of the like. How do I actually get it to begin backing up my Mac, I have tried Time Machine but its not listed?

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    Have a read of what the iCloud backup does - it has to do with the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. It is not a backup service for OS X - link.
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    i thought that but why then is there a whole section for it in Lion, giving you options on what you would like to back up etc if you cant actually back any of those things up?

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    Had same doubt as Denny. Thought iCloud could be used for backup of iMac, currently only Apple device I have. Looks like I'll need to look into Dropbox for backup to the cloud instead, or just use a more traditional pen drive or CD. A bit disappointed, especially given how much one pays for one of these iMacs.

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    It's free, and has a 5GB max (unless you pay for more). That wouldn't back up much from a computer. From a phone? Sure.
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    A bit disappointed, especially given how much one pays for one of these iMacs.
    What does that have to do with it? When you buy a PC does Microsoft or the PC manufacturer give you access to a free on line backup service?

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    Dysfunction and chscag,

    Thanks for reply. My pictures are at most 2,5GB. I have about 2 GB in documents, at most. So, iCloud would be perfect for my needs. Secondly, no PC manufacturer has given free on line backup service because that is a something rather new, isn't it? I mean, I'm from the time, when I worked at IBM, where backups were done on tapes overnight w/those huge mainframes which have less capacity than my Nokia phone. So, brave new world that Steve Jobs imagined certainly would not be limited.

    As for the iMac, this is the 2nd one I bought. My other lasted for almost 6 years til there was a short circuit which luckily did not damage the hard drive. I am a big fan of the iMac, which in Brazil costs 3 times as much as an HP PC. So, given the combination of Steve Jobs dreams and promises (spoken or unspoken) I think it's not incorrect to expect something more from the iCloud.

    I stand by what I wrote and I appreciate your feedback.

    All the best!

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    Hi DanielBrasilia, dennyc123,

    As has been mentioned by others iCloud doesn't back up your whole system. It does copy all your documents, music and photos to the cloud and happens automatically anytime you are connected with any Apple device. For instance if you take a picture with your IPhone, it will be available immediately on any other device which is signed in with your ICloud credentials anywhere in the world. If something were to happen to your computer, you would only have to reinstall the operating system, sign into ICloud and all your docs, photos and music would be available. Apple has included Time Machine for free which would also require an external drive but does run automatically and backs up your user folder. For an image like back-up you will to have have an external drive attached and software like Super Duper installed and running.

    Hope this helps

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    Mini_mi,

    Your reply has helped me understand some possibilities - I started the Time Machine hoping to find an option to direct my files, which would fit into iCloud, to iCloud, but it only seemed to expect an external drive as option (btw, does that include a pen drive?).

    Or is it just using a software like SuperDuper (which I had never heard of) that I could direct those files to the iCloud?

    Thanks for bearing with me. On previous iMac I used CDs/DVDs to backup files and then just copied most of my files to a pen drive directly (in December) just before my older PowerPc iMac decided to go bust.

    Cheers,
    DanielBrasilia

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielBrasilia View Post
    Mini_mi,

    Your reply has helped me understand some possibilities - I started the Time Machine hoping to find an option to direct my files, which would fit into iCloud, to iCloud, but it only seemed to expect an external drive as option (btw, does that include a pen drive?).

    Or is it just using a software like SuperDuper (which I had never heard of) that I could direct those files to the iCloud?

    Thanks for bearing with me. On previous iMac I used CDs/DVDs to backup files and then just copied most of my files to a pen drive directly (in December) just before my older PowerPc iMac decided to go bust.

    Cheers,
    DanielBrasilia
    Your files (anything in your user folder except videos) are automatically copied to ICloud if your connected to the internet.

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    Mini_mi,

    Apparently this automatic upload to iCloud only works with mobile devices, as others have informed. I have enabled iCloud, my iMac is continously connected to the Inet but when I manage my iCloud I am informed that I have 5MB available and am using 0% of it, even though, on the 1st screen iCloud shows me I have marked all items, like Contacts, Calendar, Documents and Data, Shared Photostream. I had hoped it was as easy as pie, but this time I have found it's not automatic as I hoped.

    Thanks for your continuous feedback,
    Daniel

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    Have you logged into ICloud on the web and looked to see whats there?

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    Dear Mini,

    I had not done that and report that I was pleased to find my Contacts and Calendar "up there" in the cloud. That's a great start to a new relationship. However, if other files or pictures are up there, I could not see, as the icons available included the 2 I cited and Mail (I don't have an apple mail) and iWorks (I do have Numbers, but not on iOS).

    Thanks again for your patience in interacting w/me on this issue,
    DanielBrasilia

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    I take it you're using microsoft office for your documents? It turns out that iCloud only backs up documents from Apple's iLife suite, not office docs, that's why it won't upload them.

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    Dear Dive,

    Thanks for your information!

    I know it may take a while, since Apple's work philosophy is to emphasize it's toolset, but I guess I'm hoping that one day it'll be more flexible. Until then, I'll use Dropbox for those documents you correctly imagined I'm using w/MS Office on Mac.

    But I do have various files, often in the same folder as the MS Office files, which are exclusively Numbers - which, I must admit, am not sure if part of the iLife suite. I just bought Numbers from iTunes to be able to use previous files I had created w/the old AppleWorks. Is the iCloud so selective that it can pick out those files which are Apple-sw from those that aren't?

    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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