05-03-2011, 02:36 PM #1iWork/MS Office/LibreOffice...my current conclusions
iWork/MS Office/LibreOffice...my current conclusions
Ok, I've been all around on what is best in my scenario regarding document, spreadsheets, publications, mail, calendaring, and presentation.
iWork and MS Office both have their strengths with unique features. Problem for me is, they really don't play well together when it comes to opening each other's formats. Formatting is lost, fonts change, or backgrounds go bye-bye on presentations. Too much work on the end-user IMO.
Exporting an iWork document into a .doc format looks great in iWork but not so much in MS Office 2011/2007/2008. Same thing for documents created in Office and opened up in iWork. They say they are compatible, but only to a point-basic text. IMO, there's too much work in re-formatting, finding fonts, and other issues.
Again, there are unique strengths in iWork NUMBERS and Office Excel that the importing exporting really messes up.
Wow, I've never gotten a good import from one to another. Baisc info in a presentation is a nightmare because essentially I have to do it all over again for the backgrounds, etc.
I need to work on my docs at home, mobile, and at work. So not only is the import/exporting produce a challenge, but I need to access it from multipple spots. iWork doesn't office this natively...it has to export to a MS Office format first. A shame given all the platforms that Apple makes that are iWork Friendly. So, Google Docs comes into play.
So, what DO I DO?
I've landed with LibreOffice for my basic document and spreadsheet needs. I can save files to a tagged folder that Syncplicity(free!) will use to sync with GoogleDocs. Creating or editing a document on my Macbook Pro will automagically save it as well to my online Google Docs. If my computer or the "cloud" crashes, I don't lose my stuff. Any changes made online sync back to my Macbook Pro. I can use the GoogleApp on my iPhone to access and edit documents as well.
For presentations, I use KeyNote if I'm able to take my Mac with me. If not, then I use Office Powerpoint since most venues have a poor laptop handy that's usually Windows-based.
For publishing, PAGES is the best way. I was looking at PAGES wrong as just a document app, but changing my mind to using it as a publisher keeps it in my tool chest of apps to use for specific things. I can always produce on it and print/save as PDF.
On the email/calendar front...Apple's Mail and iCal work best for me. Outlook 2011 was SO promising but it's slow and still doesn't direct sync with Google calendar. Thunderbird with Lightning was a good try, but you have to be online for the calendar to show up, so offline access was a no-go. I hope a 3rd party will once day put an all-in-one together but until then, Mail and iCal it is.
I hope this helps as it's what I've finally landed on regarding Productivity on the Mac.
05-03-2011, 03:10 PM #2
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- Apr 06, 2011
- Louisville, KY - USA
- MBP 17" 2011, 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7, 8GB RAM, MacMini 2011, 2.7GHz Intel Dual-Core i7, 8GB RAM
I came from the Windows 7 world with Microsoft Office 2007 with Outlook as my office suite. 99% of the people I deal with on a daily bases with regards to office documents use some flavor of MS Office 2003 or above. I have all my email coming through a Microsoft Exchange server, so that covers all the PIM data storage and access (Contacts, Email, Todo, Calendar, Notes).
When I got my MBP, I had very little trouble in making the decision to get Office:mac 2011 Business (with Outlook). Especially considering how easy it is to hide that small upcharge between iWorks and Office:mac at the time of purchase. Only Microsoft Office will be fully compatible and supported with/by Microsoft Office. Now, I realize there were issues with the Office:mac in the past, however this latest rendition seems to have pretty much hit the mark.
Everyone will have different requirements and different budgets. It is just that I see a lot of "I did this in iWorks but Office wont read it" or "I did this extremely complicated spreadsheet in Excel using custom functions but Numbers wont process it."
If you know you will be dealing with people on the business side, keep in mind what they will likely be running on their business machines. I am all for cheaper and even free/open source, but at some point, when you have to get that deliverable to a customer, it had better be compatible with their systems. Same thing with school projects and such.
If it is all just personal use, then take the cheapest route you are comfortable with, but realize there will be compatibility issues when friends start sending files about to share.MBP 17" 2011, 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1GB RAM
MacMini 2011, 2.7GHz Intel Dual-Core i7, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256MB RAM
iPhone 5S 64GB, iPad Air 2 128 GB LTE, iPod Nano Gen6 8GB, Apple TV 3 & 2
05-03-2011, 04:05 PM #3
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- Dec 03, 2006
- Irvine, CA
- Black Macbook C2D 2GHz 3GB RAM 250GB HD iPhone 4 iPad 3G
I think it ultimately depends on what your personal needs are. I use Office primarily for creating documents. However, I use Keynote for presentations and Pages for my publishing needs.
Use the tool that's most appropriate for the job.
05-03-2011, 05:46 PM #4
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- Jan 23, 2008
- Fort Worth, Texas
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05-03-2011, 10:14 PM #5
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- Nov 08, 2010
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I use iwork on my Macbook. My mom got an imac that her office put office 2011 on it so if i have something that does not work the i can just go to my computer in finder and pull up the document.
05-05-2011, 08:42 AM #6
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For email, I use Sparrow. Sparrow-The new mail for Mac. It works just like Google Mail and is fast! I like this much better than Mail.app It handles conversations the same way as Gmail.
I highly recommend it!
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