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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Thanks for your response Dave re: iExplorer update. I do have the latest version of iMazing (2.4) and believe I will just press on with using it to do backups. About copying your old iPad to a new one, I believe that capability still exists with the new version of iTunes. iTunes 12.7 continues to be able to make backups of your iDevices so the latest backup you have from your older iPad should be able to be used go populate the new one.
    This is the bit that concerns me. Will iTunes backups include 3rd party apps?
    If I need to perform a restore for example using an iTunes backup will it include the apps? This is probably a moot point for me because I use iMazing for backups but my wife does not.
    Surely Apple would not expect us to reload all of those apps again from the App Store?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    This is the bit that concerns me. Will iTunes backups include 3rd party apps?
    If I need to perform a restore for example using an iTunes backup will it include the apps? This is probably a moot point for me because I use iMazing for backups but my wife does not.
    Surely Apple would not expect us to reload all of those apps again from the App Store?
    Lot of folks have been asking the same thing. As far as we are aware, iTunes will continue to make backups which will include those apps you have on your iPhone or iPad regardless of whether or not they're third party.

    However, it has been my personal experience with restoring third party apps that many times the data associated with those apps is lost. I have had to go through some hoops to reinstate lost data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Thanks for your response Dave re: iExplorer update. I do have the latest version of iMazing (2.4) and believe I will just press on with using it to do backups. About copying your old iPad to a new one, I believe that capability still exists with the new version of iTunes. iTunes 12.7 continues to be able to make backups of your iDevices so the latest backup you have from your older iPad should be able to be used go populate the new one.
    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Lot of folks have been asking the same thing. As far as we are aware, iTunes will continue to make backups which will include those apps you have on your iPhone or iPad regardless of whether or not they're third party.

    However, it has been my personal experience with restoring third party apps that many times the data associated with those apps is lost. I have had to go through some hoops to reinstate lost data.
    Thanks again Chscag for the comments above - I hope that Apple has indeed kept the restore function in place to setup a new iPad - but in reading Ian's links, one quote below is what concerned me (placed in bold) - just thinking that iMazing might be the better option - Dave

    In addition, there’s the issue of restoring an iOS device that has had problems, or setting up a new device. Instead of being able to sync your apps from iTunes, you’ll need to download all of them. And you can no longer rearrange apps when your devices is connected to iTunes; if you have a lot of apps, this is much easier than moving wiggling icons around on your device screen.
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    Having just done an iMazing backup for my iPhone 7, I noticed there is a Transfer To Another Device option. I assume that is the way to go to set up a new iPhone/iPad. I use the encrypted backup option in the hope that will preserve my settings, passwords and data but it's all untested so far.
    One comment on the OSX Daily page on this topic was from a user who had updated without first reading the "Whats New" section. He was irate and I'm sure he will not be the only one.
    I would expect to see, How can I revert to iTunes 12.6 ? posts appearing very soon.

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    Sorry guys if I have duplicated this. It has turned out to be rather important because we use a hotel bookings app here which depends on the below method to sync across devices:

    Just briefly on the topic of iTunes 12.7
    We will all be familiar with the window at the bottom of the device Apps tab when syncing via USB. It has a number of apps listed in a column on the left that can have data added by selecting the app, pressing the add button and dragging files to the window prior to sync. I am guessing that this will not be available in 12.7 so how do I transfer files from OSX to iOS apps that depend on that transfer method?


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    A bit late reply Rod.

    With iTunes 12.7, you can still drag and drop the *.ipa file on your device and it will install. The problem with that is you can no longer update apps and save them on your Mac with 12.7. The only way you can update apps is from your device.

    And Rod... please do not double post the same question. You posted here and also in the Sunday Night chat thread. That just causes confusion.
    Last edited by chscag; 09-18-2017 at 02:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    so how do I transfer files from OSX to iOS apps that depend on that transfer method?


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    There is a "File Sharing" option, when you have selected your device, in iTunes 12.7. Do you see it?
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    Oh, no I don't see it because I have not updated iTunes yet but I'm glad to know it's there. Thanks.

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    Sorry chscag, I apologised for that possibility in advance, I was not sure it had actually gone through due to a drop out and a little problem I am having with the MacForums app. Still it won't be around much longer.

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