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Old 10-29-2009, 08:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I did not use any hacks when I did a clean install. I obtained my version of Win 7 64x upgrade for $30 using my edu email address as I am a student, (any student who is currently enrolled at a registered university can do the same as I understood it), and it activated just fine.

Another question I have is, When I had initially installed Vista on my MBP there was a Bootcamp configuration icon present down by the clock, as well as in the start menu, which allowed me to update BC as well as choose which OS I wanted to start as default upon boot, among other things, but since installing Win 7 this option is gone. Any idea why and how I can get it back?
The Education discounted version you purchased was more than likely a "full" rather than the commercially sold "upgrade" version which does require a previous eligible copy to be present in order to activate.

As for your other questions: (I'll try to also answer your other question regarding the "sleep" and "screensaver" problem.)

It would appear that the proper drivers were not installed that are necessary for your copy of Win 7 X64 to utilize the power saver options on your Mac hardware. I honestly don't know whether the drivers which are included on the Snow Leopard disk (Boot Camp 3.0) which are for Vista X64 will work for Win 7 X64.

Officially, Apple will support Windows 7 in December. They will probably issue an update to Boot Camp 3.0, possibly calling it 3.1. (my guess) For now however, Boot Camp 3.0 does officially support Vista X32 and X64.

I would have thought that there is no difference between the way Vista and Win 7 work since they both use the same driver model. But I can't say for sure. My copy of Win 7 X32 that I installed is working fine - all power saver options seem to be OK.

Your question about the Boot Camp icon: Make sure it's not hidden. The system notification tray in Vista - Win 7 acts differently than that of XP. You have to select it from the group of available tray items. If it isn't there at all, check Control Panel. You should have an entry for Boot Camp. If not, I suggest that you try to reinstall the BC drivers by running the driver installation program from the Snow Leopard disk again.

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Old 10-29-2009, 09:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You may very well be correct in your assumption of the educational release, though it was advertised as an upgrade only, and upon initial installation I was given only the choices of "upgrade" or "custom (advanced)". It came in the form of an EXE zip file that would not extract and begin installation from within a previous version of a Windows OS as it was supposedly designed to do. It was quite a mess for most on release day, many were having the same problem. Rather than wait for Digital River to correct the quagmire I created an ISO from the download and then extraced a bootable disk from that.

No sign of the hidden icon or an entry for BC in the programs menu or control panel. Deactivating the hidden icon option is always one of the first things I do after a fresh install...I hate the fact that this is set as a default, let alone is an option at all. Why hid them? I can't tell you how many individuals I have run into that were not even aware that they were running so many programs on boot up

"Bootcamp 64x is unsupported on this computer model" is what I am greeted with when I try and reinstall BC, so it would appear that I will have to wait for Apple to release '3.1' But I thank you for your response. I'll look forward to it's release as an early X-Mas present
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:56 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Odd, I'm running 64-bit 7 on my MacBook Pro and everything works fine, including the Boot Camp icon in the Control Panel. I did have to change the view to not show categories, but other than that, no problems.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Hmmm, now you got me thinking. On a whim based an chscag's post I went and installed all the drivers under the 64x folder one by one manually and now the screensaver works on timer as does the display shut down option. Too the numbers lock key works, but no other key stokes that I can tell. Still no BC software / icon though, but if it is working for you, cwa107, then I will have to assume I am missing something still.

Again though, if I try and reinstall BC using the setup.exe file found in the BC folder of the Snow Leopard DVD I get an error stating that BootCamp 64x is unsupported on this computer model. My MBC is ver 3.1 built in late 2007, which in my understanding is going to be supported based on what I am reading on Apples B support site.

Guess I'll keep tinkering and see if I make any further progress then

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Just to clarify - I'm using Windows 7 Enterprise demo for IT professionals. It's the full version, good for 90 days. I installed it clean and then installed the Boot Camp package (not the individual drivers) as supplied with the Snow Leopard disc. I *did* receive a Windows warning that this software is known to have problems with this version of Windows, but I was able to "install anyway". At that point, everything came up fine and I've been using it since.

My MacBook Pro is the 4,1 version (early 2008) and I believe it to be identical to chscag's.
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What I did, as cwa107 suggested, was hold the option key down until I was greeted with OS X and Windows, I then inserted the upgrade disc. This gave me a third option to boot from the DVD, which I did.

From there rather than choosing UPGRADE I chose CUSTOM (Advanced), formatted the BootCamp drive and installed from scratch. Everything went smoothly and it never asked for any other activation key other than the one for Windows 7.
I’m just curious. From what I’ve read, I don’t think chscag held down the option key when he did his install of Windows 7 Upgrade. If I’m wrong, please let me know. Choosing custom makes sense because that would allow for a clean install. When you use Apple’s Boot Camp at the beginning of the install, will it ask you if you want to do an upgrade or a custom install? I guess I’m experiencing a little ring rust because the last time I used Boot Camp to install XP was in December of 2007.

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In my case, I was going from Vista 32 bit to Win 7 64 bit, and unless I am mistaken the 64 bit installation will not boot from within a 32 bit OS and as such I had to boot straight from the DVD. Perhaps chscag's situation was different?
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In my case, I was going from Vista 32 bit to Win 7 64 bit, and unless I am mistaken the 64 bit installation will not boot from within a 32 bit OS and as such I had to boot straight from the DVD. Perhaps chscag's situation was different?
You're correct. You can not boot the 64X install DVD from within 32X or even do an upgrade. It has to be a clean install which would require choosing the custom option.

I was doing a clean install anyway - no previous version present. Which is why I used the registry edit and the "rearm" command. The custom install option was what I also chose. The reason I chose not to install the 64X version of Win 7 is that I knew I would have difficulty with drivers for some of our hardware.

I did run into a situation where I could not get our HP LJ 1012 to work. HP has no drivers for Win 7 or Vista. However, on a whim I used my W2K\XP driver disk for the 1012 and it worked. That was a pleasant surprise.

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