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Old 01-09-2009, 04:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For those of you running Win7 in a VM, how did you install it? I am interested in trying it. Did you download a .ISO file or get a disk? Thanks!
My company has an MSDN subscription, so I just downloaded the ISO from Microsoft and told VMWare to use the ISO as the installation disc. 20 minutes later, it was installed (and yes, it does install VERY quickly!).
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ah, OK. No, I don't seem to be having a problem in VMware. I also own a Parallels license, but I preferred VMware and switched.
A bit off-topic, but do you think it is possible to run both Parallels and VMware at the same time, using the Bootcamp XP-installation? I have Parallels, but am not so happy with 4.0 and thought I might try out VMware without having to unistall and redo everything if I do not like that better.
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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A bit off-topic, but do you think it is possible to run both Parallels and VMware at the same time, using the Bootcamp XP-installation? I have Parallels, but am not so happy with 4.0 and thought I might try out VMware without having to unistall and redo everything if I do not like that better.
I know it's possible, but probably not the best way to do it. Both products install virtual network adapters, which increase overhead on the system. I would personally pick one or the other and stick with it.

I chose VMWare over Parallels because their Linux support is much more robust. Additionally, I had a lot of flakiness with 3.0 and when I saw VMware 2.0, I found that it was the best balance for me.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Classic Microsoft: They pulled the beta download, apparently because there was too much traffic on the servers. Man, I am convinced that the only reason MS owns the corporate environment is because Apple doesn't really want it ... the guys in Redmond look like clowns today after not being able to deliver their beta. No word on when product keys will be available, so folks will only be able to use it for 30 days. Some "big rollout." Sheesh.

Thanks for the tip that Fusion will install from the .ISO file - that will save me the trouble of burning a disk (if and when the darn thing actually becomes available).

I use Windows PCs all day at work, and have been using them since the DOS days. There are even things I like about them, but IMO everything went downhill after XP ... Sorry to bash, just frustrated about not being able to get the beta.

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Old 01-09-2009, 06:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
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this is nothing new. all they did was taking something that was already present in windows (but rarely used) quickbar and make the icons bigger. it does have some added functionality but its main purpose is still the same and was already a feature of windows.

i hope all of windows 7 isnt like that. just a bunch a rehashed features no one used improved and marketed as something brand new.

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Old 01-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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this is nothing new. all they did was taking something that was already present in windows (but rarely used) quickbar and make the icons bigger. it does have some added functionality but its main purpose is still the same and was already a feature of windows.

i hope all of windows 7 isnt like that. just a bunch a rehashed features no one used improved and marketed as something brand new.
It's pretty good, really. And this is from someone who is usually very critical of Microsoft.

It's very evident that lots of attention was paid to increasing performance and de-bloating. Things like Windows Mail, Windows Calendar and a lot of the other obvious Apple rip-offs are no longer installed by default. Instead, if you choose to add them, you can do so with Windows Live Services - this includes Messenger. So, you get a fairly stripped down install, but at least you're not saddled with a lot of bloat that you might not want. This is a VERY good thing in my view - and a step in the right direction.

An operating system should be about allowing the user to manipulate the fundamentals of the computer efficiently. When a company focuses entirely on eye candy and other non-essential cruft, other than refining the core of the OS, you get Vista. This is a nice change, both from Microsoft, and even more so with Apple.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Classic Microsoft: They pulled the beta download, apparently because there was too much traffic on the servers. Man, I am convinced that the only reason MS owns the corporate environment is because Apple doesn't really want it ... the guys in Redmond look like clowns today after not being able to deliver their beta. No word on when product keys will be available, so folks will only be able to use it for 30 days. Some "big rollout." Sheesh.
Yeah. It didn't go all smooth like the MobileMe launch did.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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This was their core product. No company is perfect but you can't mess up your core product, period. Just my two cents.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This was their core product. No company is perfect but you can't mess up your core product, period. Just my two cents.
Agreed. Microsoft's focus is way too broad. They have their fingers in everything. If they could just focus on their core products, they'd be in better shape for sure.
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They didn't mess up their core product. It's a free beta that half the world is trying to download at once. Of course their servers would feel the heat.

Here are the links I used. Downloaded in about 20 minutes earlier tonight.

Windows 7 Beta Official Direct Download Links » My Digital Life
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You mean no company SHOULD mess up their core product. I'm fairly certain that if you ask around you'll get many examples of how Microsoft has screwed up. Windows ME ring a bell?
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I wouldn't say they're really copying OSX...as other users have said, they seem to have had that function for awhile, they're just improving on it. And if you think about it, Apple and Windows copy from each other all the time, and a lot of elements are originally from Linux as well... I didn't start this thread as a Windows blame thread.
I agree its something that worked before for apple and Windows is putting their own twist on it.
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Interesting article I ran into on Gizmodo today...

Giz Explains: Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock

A very thorough comparison between the OS X Dock and Windows 7 Taskbar. Great read.

It's nice to Microsoft actually putting some genuine THOUGHT into UI design, and while some may argue that they are taking plenty of cues from Apple, I'd say that if they did, at least they improved upon those concepts greatly.
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Interesting article I ran into on Gizmodo today...

Giz Explains: Why the Windows 7 Taskbar Beats Mac OS X's Dock

A very thorough comparison between the OS X Dock and Windows 7 Taskbar. Great read.

It's nice to Microsoft actually putting some genuine THOUGHT into UI design, and while some may argue that they are taking plenty of cues from Apple, I'd say that if they did, at least they improved upon those concepts greatly.
Great Read cwa107... thanks for that. It will be interesting to see how Windows 7 progresses in the future.

Side Note, am I able to hook up a external USB drive and install Windows 7 onto it? Probably not is what I am thinking, since boot camp is a waste for me (weird error I get)
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For those of you running Win7 in a VM, how did you install it? I am interested in trying it. Did you download a .ISO file or get a disk? Thanks!
vm can read .iso's. I simply downloaded the iso from windows.com and just chose it when installing.
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