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    New-Old G4
    Hello All
    New user here to both the site and the Mac. so be easy please.
    I hope this is the right area for this otherwise general first post.
    Firstly, I was given an old G4 "Sawtooth" as I've come to find out more about it. I've managed so far to replace the whining 20gb HD with a partitioned 60.
    2 30gb partitions each, and another different 20gb drive with a single partition.
    I've also so far stumbled through firmware upgrades, memory upgraded to 1gb, OS 9.2.2 upgrade, and others from iTunes to IE.
    I guess I'm trying to get to a point here of whether it's better to continue learning to use this thing as it is (old, outdated, basically unsupported), or buy a retail version of Tiger and start clean.
    As I have no documentation, software cd's for OS 9 install, restore, etc., if I trash it during the learning process as I'm sure will be inevitable, I have no way to put it back to "original".
    I have to say that I'm astounded as to the relative speed of this old monkey.
    It starts up and shuts down faster than my self built overclocked sempron 3000+ Geforce 4 2gb pc 3200 XPSP2 box.
    So, I guess that's long enough for a first newbie post.
    Thanks in advance for any/all suggestions and opinions.
    Looking forward to learning more.
    I just might become a convert, time will tell I guess.

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    I would definatelly upgrade to Tiger. It is a completely different OS than 9.2.2
    If you're just starting on Macs, then start fresh!
    Also, I found some links for your machine.
    http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=g4agp
    http://www.everymac.com/systems/appl...ac_g4_500.html

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/appl...wermac-g4.html
    When all else fails, try everything!
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    Thanks for the links Soulwar. Good info. if not a tad confusing.
    Now I'm not sure what I have.
    Audio ports are vertical, rage pro with vga and dvi outs suggest Sawtooth, but it has no modem, and no internal firewire. While the label on the back states gigabit enet, it has no ADC as Mystic would.
    No matter really I guess, just a "want to know" thing.
    Guess I'll look on ebay for retail Tiger. Kind of "iffy" but bound to be less than $130.00 from apple.


    I'll edit my own here.
    Upon further inspection, it does have VGA and ADC, not DVI.
    It also does have a modem, it was just set to the covered positon.

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    Yeah, specs are hard to figure out with those. They were changing fast, but at least you have some more info...
    Just make sure it's the Retail version. (black cd)
    You'll love it though. Way better than OS 9!
    When all else fails, try everything!
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    Will it be CD or DVD ?
    Just a few minutes on there with "Mac Tiger" found tons of different items.
    Retail versions, CD, DVD, eMac, upgrade, iBook, .........
    geez, maybe I'll just do the apple store thing to make sure it's the right one.

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    Mine was DVD. As long as you can use DVD on your Mac, it'll be fine.
    When all else fails, try everything!
    The Rep System and you.
    Life's a joke...If you're not laughing, then you didn't get it.

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    fred go to the Apple Profiler 'About this Mac' and make sure the firmware, probably shown as Boot Rom Versionup is 4.2.8 with probably an f1 ater it before attempting to load OS X.

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    You say it has no Firewire? All PowerMac G4's had Firewire from the first Yikes model with a G3 B&W Motherboard to the last MDD. That does not sound right.

    In system Profiler what is the speed of that G4? If it has Gigabit Ethernet it's not a Sawtooth but a Gigabit.

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    harryb2448 : Yes it is 4.2.8 I did manage to update it a few days ago.

    dtravis7 : Yes it has 2 external FW ports on the back, but none internal on the board like the Sawtooth specs. describe. Speed displays as 400Mhz.
    Another odd thing is I can view this site with it, but can't log in.
    Must be the old IE 5.1 browser.
    Guess it's a Gigabit "Mystic" rather than "Sawtooth" after all

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    Yes IE 5.1 has issues for sure. There is a browser that will work in OS 9 called iCab. See if you can download that till you upgrade the OS.

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    Well, after fits and starts, I'm here on the Mac with iCab.
    Guess I did it right by dropping the app. file in the system folder and making an alias on the desktop, but MAN is it slow to render !
    Got to get me a Tiger before I get too used to this if it's that much different.
    Thanks for the help so far folks.
    Sorry for the seemingly mindless chatter, but you are helping and my eyes are numb from reading.
    Back to ebay I go.

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    Glad the iCab helped. Yeah get OSX soon! You will love it.

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    Quick question about Tiger.
    Some sites advertise the [OLD VERSION] (Amazon in particular).
    Is this referring to the original released version ?
    I'm sure there are updates available.
    Thanks.

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    They probably put that on so that people don't buy Tiger thinking it's the latest release, Leopard.

    Whatever version of Tiger you have on DVD, you can update to the latest Tiger version (10.4.11) for free through Software Update.

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