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    Buying Overseas - Hong Kong - Japan
    Dear Members,

    I am a new Mac user, or actually a wanna-be user at this point. I will make a trip to Hong Kong and Japan this coming september, and I want to buy 2 MacBooks. One for my wife, and one for me. As my wife is Japanese, we would prefer to get hers in Japan, and mine in Hong Kong.

    Reason being is that its 20-30% cheaper than where we live currently, Hungary.

    My wife would like to keep using Japanese as her input-language, and for me all I need is a decent English US preferably input.

    My questions are the following. If I buy a Mac overseas, will the warranty reach to Hungary? We do have Mac locally here, just the prices are high.

    As I have never had/used a Mac, dont know what to expect OS wise. Is it like WIndows, which comes in a local language everywhere? I would prefer not to get a Chinese version in HK, as I dont read/speak Chinese. Will I find one with English in HK? If not, can I reinstall the English version? How is Japan? Will it be Japanese? All my wife needs in Japanese input, OS is okay in English, but if its Japanese, no big deal.

    How is the power adapter? Can I just change the cable part like I am doing now, and keep the adapter? I assume it works on 100-240V range as well as regular PCs.

    This is it for a starter, I am really looking forward to the change. I have currently a Vaio TR3/SP Japanese version, and the MacBook is very similar in style. I use the Vaio with Linux, so I guess the change for me will not be as shocking as for my Windows user wife

    Thanks for all responses,

    Ben

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    wont the keyboard keys be different anyway?

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    Hi

    Well, I am trying to find this out now. I have never seen a Mac from Hong Kong or Japan.

    Ben

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    Hi

    I now found out that the Hong Kong version comes with english OS X and english Keyboard.

    How is the Japanese version? What language is the OS and the keyboard?

    Thanks

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by bence8810 View Post
    Hi

    I now found out that the Hong Kong version comes with english OS X and english Keyboard.

    How is the Japanese version? What language is the OS and the keyboard?

    Thanks

    Ben
    What language do you think the Japanese version is in?

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    Can't you select the language when you first start it up? But anyways, if I remember correctly the Japanese Macbook has the english alphabet, with Hiragana in the top right corner of the keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPancakes View Post
    Can't you select the language when you first start it up? But anyways, if I remember correctly the Japanese Macbook has the english alphabet, with Hiragana in the top right corner of the keys.
    My sister used one when she studied abroad and it was the exact opposite, with the English in the top right corner of the keys. It was a first generation Macbook, though, it might have changed since then.

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    I just did a quick search on flickr and found this..
    http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=534414861&size=l

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPancakes View Post
    I just did a quick search on flickr and found this..
    http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=534414861&size=l
    I knew it!

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    Hi

    Thanks all, so many replies in so little time.

    I have never seen or touched a macbook, thus the silly question, sorry. Please enlighten me how this whole thing works when you purchase a MacBook.

    I dont speak either chinese nor Japanese, but would like to see English on both MacBooks. When I first power it, it will ask me what language I want it to have? I only know so far Windows and Linux, and which those, you have one language, or reinstall to have another one. I mean the menus, etc.

    Of course Linux will allow you to install it on any language as long as you follow the install from Step #1 even before HDD partitioning, etc.

    Thanks for your help, and again, please bare with me as I am a complete newbie.

    Ben

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    Another few questions came to my mind,

    I would like to have it with 2GB RAM, but I wouldnt like to fork out the extra cash for it to Apple, as the price is pretty steep. There are no issues with getting some quality RAM from a local supplier and replacing the 2 512MB modules with 2 1GB modules, right? Based on this article it seems to be a no-hassle process:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303721

    Another thing, will the basic warranty be global? I will bring both macbooks to Hungary, and shall they have problems, I wouldnt like to travel all the way back to the Far East for repairs.

    Is the 3year extension worthed?

    Thanks

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by bence8810 View Post
    Hi

    Thanks all, so many replies in so little time.

    I have never seen or touched a macbook, thus the silly question, sorry. Please enlighten me how this whole thing works when you purchase a MacBook.

    I dont speak either chinese nor Japanese, but would like to see English on both MacBooks. When I first power it, it will ask me what language I want it to have? I only know so far Windows and Linux, and which those, you have one language, or reinstall to have another one. I mean the menus, etc.

    Of course Linux will allow you to install it on any language as long as you follow the install from Step #1 even before HDD partitioning, etc.

    Thanks for your help, and again, please bare with me as I am a complete newbie.

    Ben
    Oops, what I was referring to when I said "first start up" was the very first time you start it up. I believe that it's much the same as Windows, where you only select the language when you install a fresh copy of OSX. I'm not sure if it's possible to switch languages for different users on the same Mac, but if you'd like to see English on both, then there might be a solution..

    On my Macbook, the main language is English, but Apple does have a special Input program that you can keep in your Menubar that will allow you to type characters of a different language. For example, I can turn my "Hiragana Input" on in my menubar, and if I key in "arigatou" it will type "あっりがとう". This happens until you turn English on again, which is just as easy. I'm not sure if this is different than a traditional Japanese keyboard; you may want to ask your wife.

    I hope that helps. Maybe someone else can answer whether or not you can set up different languages on different user accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPancakes View Post
    Oops, what I was referring to when I said "first start up" was the very first time you start it up. I believe that it's much the same as Windows, where you only select the language when you install a fresh copy of OSX. I'm not sure if it's possible to switch languages for different users on the same Mac, but if you'd like to see English on both, then there might be a solution..

    On my Macbook, the main language is English, but Apple does have a special Input program that you can keep in your Menubar that will allow you to type characters of a different language. For example, I can turn my "Hiragana Input" on in my menubar, and if I key in "arigatou" it will type "あっりがとう". This happens until you turn English on again, which is just as easy. I'm not sure if this is different than a traditional Japanese keyboard; you may want to ask your wife.

    I hope that helps. Maybe someone else can answer whether or not you can set up different languages on different user accounts.
    Hi, Yes I understood what you meant. I mean the same, with Windows, unless you burn yourself an IMAGE with mulit-languages, there is no way to select languages. An XP CD is English, Japanese, CHinese, Hungarian, etc by nature. There is no way to squeeze out another language from a CD. Of course the keyboard layout you can set freely, but the menus you cannot.

    And this is what I worry about, if my wife gets the Japanese one with Japanese OS, I may not be able to assist her as much as I would if it was in English. Although its still less of a worry than for me getting a Chinese OS, then we both (wife and me) would be out of luck

    So steering back to the original questions then, will the Japanese MacBook come with Japanese OS X? The one on the photo above seemed to be in English.

    Keyboards dont really matter, they seem to be fine, just like on any PC, with some Roman letter on the keys even if there are Japanese, or Chinese ones as well.

    Thanks

    Ben

    p.s. I would not like to set up different languages for different users. Sorry if my post was confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bence8810 View Post
    Hi, Yes I understood what you meant. I mean the same, with Windows, unless you burn yourself an IMAGE with mulit-languages, there is no way to select languages. An XP CD is English, Japanese, CHinese, Hungarian, etc by nature. There is no way to squeeze out another language from a CD. Of course the keyboard layout you can set freely, but the menus you cannot.

    And this is what I worry about, if my wife gets the Japanese one with Japanese OS, I may not be able to assist her as much as I would if it was in English. Although its still less of a worry than for me getting a Chinese OS, then we both (wife and me) would be out of luck

    So steering back to the original questions then, will the Japanese MacBook come with Japanese OS X? The one on the photo above seemed to be in English.

    Keyboards dont really matter, they seem to be fine, just like on any PC, with some Roman letter on the keys even if there are Japanese, or Chinese ones as well.

    Thanks

    Ben

    p.s. I would not like to set up different languages for different users. Sorry if my post was confusing.
    Yeah, sorry. I guess I never really answered your question. My mind was a little off yesterday morning as I was being held on the phone a hours trying to register for a college course only to find out that I couldn't.

    Anyways, seeing as that picture has an English interface and taking into account that you can't really buy OSX (only upgrades). I think it's fairly safe to assume that there is no English/Japanese versions?

    Giving a quick call or email to apple wouldn't hurt though, I'm sure they would be more than happy to answer a quick question like that. They'll also have a certain answer for your adapter question.

    I guess that's not really much help either, but that's the best answer I can give you since I've never bought any computer overseas.

    PS. I have a friend of mine currently traveling in a Japan, so I sent him a quick message, though I'm not sure how responsive he'll be as he's on vacation.

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    Hi

    Thanks for your asnwers again, its all appreciated. Sorry to hear about your college course troubles.

    I found this site explaining about the Max OS X keyboard layouts softwarewise:

    http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/i...html#available

    Basically its very similar to Debian or Ubuntu Linux which I am used to, very easy to install a keyboard layout, and easy to switch back and forth.

    As for the OS language, I found a hint here:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106478

    From the text "The Mac OS X Login Window uses the language that was selected during installation."

    This suggests there is an option to choose from a language upon initial installation.

    Hope this is valid, no further info I could find,

    Cheers

    Ben

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