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    It's Official: Macs are NOT more expensive!
    More ammunition to lay this old concept to rest:

    http://computerworld.com/action/arti...src=hm_ts_head

    Great article. Love this quote near the end:

    "The release of OS X transformed the Mac marketplace. It's a vibrant, growing community. There's an excitement around Mac products, software and hardware that you just don't feel in the Windows world any longer. I'd forgotten what that felt like."

    Amen!

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    good article!

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    Good read, but even if Macs were a bit more expensive, I'm willing to pay. For me, it's become a necessity, not a choice.

    Just like those built-in bidets. You'll never use toilet paper again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi View Post
    Good read, but even if Macs were a bit more expensive, I'm willing to pay. For me, it's become a necessity, not a choice.

    Just like those built-in bidets. You'll never use toilet paper again.
    Hilarious. And true.

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    Nice writing style on that one - I agree in many ways, when I was deciding which mac I want to save towards I wanted to look at what the components cost so I spent a little time just working out some rough basic costs

    I was aiming at the mini originally but it didn't come out at very good value, then looking at the iMac, it came out pretty good value, all considering

    The only problem is I don't need a compact case and i'd rather use one of my spare CRTs as a monitor.. I('ll still probably go for the iMac, but just as a secondary PC

    Nice read, thanks for posting it

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    The misconception has really always been because Macs have often required you spend more money.

    You can get a Windows PC for $250 - 300, if you aren't particularly ambitious about the specs. The cheapest Mac is more than double that.

    Hence, it becomes a 'fact' that Macs cost twice as much. If you actually compare similar spec' machines, it isn't true.

    It doesn't really figure so much in the home or very small network market, but if you're an IT manager buying 200 PCs at a time, that $200 - 300 difference suddenly becomes tens of thousands of dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyd View Post
    You can get a Windows PC for $250 - 300, if you aren't particularly ambitious about the specs. The cheapest Mac is more than double that.
    yea but have you ever used one of those 300 dollar pc's????? you might as well start all over again and writing out books in glyphs by using a chisel and hammer on a cave wall!!!!!

    mac's and pc's are similarly priced, but like mentioned above if you can save 200 bucks a piece when buying 300 pc's that is a significant cost. but built into that cost is the savings the company will make...aka fireing half of their IT staff because there is nothing to fix!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coach_z View Post
    yea but have you ever used one of those 300 dollar pc's????? you might as well start all over again and writing out books in glyphs by using a chisel and hammer on a cave wall!!!!!

    mac's and pc's are similarly priced, but like mentioned above if you can save 200 bucks a piece when buying 300 pc's that is a significant cost. but built into that cost is the savings the company will make...aka fireing half of their IT staff because there is nothing to fix!!!!
    -chris
    Well, that's the point. Yes, I use $300 pcs all the time.

    They're just fine for knocking out spreadsheets and documents, and handling email. That's all 80% of my users ever do. The ones that don't might need a $400 pc. They all connect to servers - only then are we getting into Mac price territory.

    It's not a reflection on Mac to say this. It's the same logic that dictates when you call a cab you get a Chevy, not a BMW. None of this is saying Macs are *too* expensive, it's just that for some jobs they cost too much.

    A lot of people don't realise this. they just think Macs are expensive, without understanding that they're BMWs, not Chevys.

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    Nail on the head there

    Coming into the computer world? You probably don't want to be spending over the odds just to check your e-mail

    With apple you always know what they sell but for many tasks this is sadly limited

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    As I said, there are thousands of reasons why Macs justify their prices, even if they have slight edge over computers. I can only say, OSX.
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    One factor that most over look is what you get on the Mac, software wise. Initially the cost may be equal or slightly higher than PC. Then you add the cost of software, in my experience, the PC is much more costly.

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    Not necessarily. It's true in terms of the quality of osftware (we all agree here) and the richness of iLife etc.

    Everyone's software habits are different, but I love certain high quality applications on the Mac such as Yep, Inbox, Overflow, Xtorrent and Newsfire. They all cost me a bundle, and they're worth it.

    The selection of software is also really good. I very rarely find some crappy piece written by some shady developer on the Mac.
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    When I bought my MBP back in December, first I was interested in a change of OS. Had been experimenting with numerous distributions of Linux, and it just wasn't ready for prime time for me. As a semi-avid reader of Computerworld, MaximumPC, and PC World for many years; there began a new trend. The contributors and editors, with their disappointment in Vista, all were experimenting with OS X. And liking it. The editor of at least one of these hardcore "Windows" mags seemed to have totally made the switch and refused to have Vista on his own personal machine. So began my own look at OS X.

    I always do a lot of research prior to purchasing any type of electronic hardware. Yeah, maybe too much. At least my wife thinks so. On second thought, not. By the time I make a purchase, I am already familiar with most of the pros and cons of a device. And by being familiar with a devices drawbacks (what it will not do) prior to purchase, my disappoints over the years have been extremely rare.

    Anyway, on to the Apple site to see what they had to offer. Determined that the 15", 2.33Ghz and the 256MB Vram was the Apple hardware that fit into my personal needs and desires (and my budget). It seemed pretty expensive. So, next came cost analysis. On to check out HP (blech), Sony (well, maybe), Toshiba (not too bad, but just not the internal hardware I was looking for), Alienware (the bonus I had just received wasn't that big), Dell (like their monitors) and a few others. I found as the editor in the story above, none of them could compete price wise with Apple. I basically found 2 options. I could either save $500 and take a processor 2 levels down, a smaller screen, 1/2 the Vram, no built-in camera, no FW800 (on any of them), no bluetooth, or some combination of these. Or, I could spend an extra $500-750 and would have to go with a 17" screen, a little larger hard drive, maybe a built-in analog only TV tuner (no true hardware enthusaist would even consider such a thing), maybe a step up on the video card, and an X-Fi card.

    After my research, the Mac hardware just plain made sense. At any price point it seemed in the Mac line, before the extras were considered, your money was going first to the best processor. As a hardware enthusiast this was a big plus for me. I just couldn't wrap my head around why companies were pairing a 1.6 or a 1.83 processor with 256MB video cards. It just plain doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It seemed to me the off-the-shelf systems were designed for a) someone that just can't afford a computer but need one (which isn't a bad thing) or b) planned obsolescence (as in, you'll be looking to replace it within 12-18 months and give them some more of your $$$ that much sooner).

    So began my foray into the world of Mac's. After my hardware decision, OS X was really only the pièce de résistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi View Post
    Not necessarily. It's true in terms of the quality of osftware (we all agree here) and the richness of iLife etc.

    Everyone's software habits are different, but I love certain high quality applications on the Mac such as Yep, Inbox, Overflow, Xtorrent and Newsfire. They all cost me a bundle, and they're worth it.
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    I just looked at those Apps. I like OVerflow a lot, maybe I'll give it a whirl.


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