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Will The MacPro (Desktop) with Xeon Intel Run Windows?


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Hi all, great forum to find. I've been looking at Macs in town here in Victoria, BC, Canada. I don't like the fact that there is no upgrading of hardrive space in the Imac so I'm thinking of going all out and buying a Mac Pro Desktop. I have huge Video and music collections on 2 500gig SataII drives and I think I'd like to go with installing them internally (as apposed to using USB/Firewire external expansion) The Mac Pro comes with Intel Xeon Processors. I am unfamiliar with the Intel Xeon processors. So my question is:
Can all intel-based Macs (incl the Intel Xeon Macs) run bootcamp and/or Parallels so that I can boot into Windows when I need to.
Thanx in advance.

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Yes. .
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Yes. .

Do you own a Mac Pro (a desktop model not a MacBook Pro) ?

I went to apple.com and on all the other Macs, the specs say that it can run windows. However when you go to the Pro tab and look at the info for the Mac Pro Desktop, it doesn't even mention Windows anywhere, hense my worry about laying down $3000 and then finding out that it doesn't boot to windows. So Im just looking for a confirmation either from apple or other authoritative website or a current owner of one to confirm that it does.

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It doesn't talk about Windows in the info because:

1. the Mac Pro doesn't come with it, you have to get it yourself

2. Windows is a competitor, right?

3. It would be a huge mistake if you only bought a Mac so you could run Windows. If this is what you want to do, buy your self a PC is the best advice we could give you. Windows will run but it is the better option to run it as a second OS not the MAIN, PRIMARY OS.
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As a first time poster to this forum, thanks for the immediate first negative put-down experience. Your a real smart-butt. You still didn't answer my question, so your whole post was a waste of space.

You gotta be kidding! Ya man, I know that duh! and so do most people who ask questions about running Windows. As I said all the rest of the ads for the other models mention that you can run windows, but it specifically doesnt mention it on this model, so I was concerned.

I don't recall asking for advise on the use of Windows on a Mac! I asked for an answer to my ACTUAL question about the Xeon processor on a Mac Pro (whci of course you didn't answer at all).This statement is getting old. I've seen it said to other posters who are merely enquiring about the prospects of running Windows for whatever reason.

The *huge mistake* here is yours by assuming that everybody who merely asks this question is going to make Windows their primary OS. I never said that. I merely said I wanted to have the ability to dual boot. Don't treat posters like idiots please. Of course I know that buying a PC for primary Windows use is a no-brainer (and much cheaper too!) Besides, I already own a perfectly good PC.

I'm not trying to keep a flame going. I just was miffed at your biased assumptions and advise when it wasn't asked for.
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I think you're extrapolating way beyond anything I posted. Biased? Really...

And the huge mistake is something we see every day on this forum: people buy Macs so they can run mostly Windows on it.

Anyway the answer was given. Twice. Todd and I both replied.
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you have to take nto consideration that some if not a majority of mac users are a bit.....fanatical.
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you have to take nto consideration that some if not a majority of mac users are a bit.....fanatical.

LOL, ya that's evident as I've been lurking around at some of the other posts.

Actually I'm looking to join the cult myself, might even become a true believer, but I still need windows for a few things and don't really wanna have 2 separate computers on my cramped desk, which is why I'm looking into the dual-boot or Parallels thing. :dive:
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then go with bootcamp if you dont mind rebooting(windows will run faster)
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Ya thats probably what I will do initially when I get the Mac in my hot little hands, but I might also try out the Parallels and see how slow it goes. Some say it works really well with little slow-down--I think thats bloody amazing!
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Any of the Intel macs can run windows.
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As a first time poster to this forum, thanks for the immediate first negative put-down experience. Your a real smart-butt. You still didn't answer my question, so your whole post was a waste of space.
Then don't buy a Mac. Seriously. What do I care?

We answered your question, you said "are you sure?" Then when someone explained why yes, we are sure and here are the reasons you asked for ... you attacked her.

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I don't recall asking for advise on the use of Windows on a Mac! I asked for an answer to my ACTUAL question about the Xeon processor on a Mac Pro (whci of course you didn't answer at all).
I did, and you immediately questioned it. Are you trolling or are you really that snotty?

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This statement is getting old. I've seen it said to other posters who are merely enquiring about the prospects of running Windows for whatever reason.
I run both Parallels and Boot Camp on my system, so I have Win XP SP2 installed twice and have used both ways quite a bit. Which is why I thought to answer your question. My mistake.
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You're telling MacHeadCase not to treat posters like idiots, and yet you come in here on your high horse and belittle her contribution to your obviously asinine question.

If you did a little research on Apple's site or the Parallels website, you would have realized that all Intel Macs can run Boot Camp and Parallels. Xeon is just the server line of processors Intel makes whereas the Core brand is the consumer line. See anything similar? Oh yes, they're both made by Intel!!!!

You're more likely to get help if you're not a prick about the answers you receive. If somebody isn't answering your question, don't berate that person for it. Either clarify your question or simply state that your question wasn't answered.

Oh, and btw, before you go and cross me off as some Mac fanatic, I just got my Mac two months ago and have been using PCs all my life. So this "advice" is coming from a person who isn't a nutjob.
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Then don't buy a Mac. Seriously. What do I care?

We answered your question, you said "are you sure?" Then when someone explained why yes, we are sure and here are the reasons you asked for ... you attacked her.


I did, and you immediately questioned it. Are you trolling or are you really that snotty?



I run both Parallels and Boot Camp on my system, so I have Win XP SP2 installed twice and have used both ways quite a bit. Which is why I thought to answer your question. My mistake.
Todd, there was no offense to you intented at all. But why not question an answer? What's wrong with getting more than one input? It's not that I didn't believe you in general, its just that I did do research on the apple website and found it strange that the Mac Pro info was the only one that didn't mention it could run Windows. So I wanted to make absolutely sure that the answers I got were from people who either owned one or had some place they got info on the Xeon's. I did post another question for you to clarify the basis of your knowledge, but you didn't answer it. Surely you yourself would not blindly believe a simple "yes" answer with no explanation or mention of Xeon or MacPro in it and then shell out $3000 without corroborating data would you? A simple yes with no explanation was just not enough to allay my fears. But I do appreciate getting responses nontheless.

The "someone" you said explained it to me, I assume you mean MacHeadCase?
I didn't take that to be a real answer and I took it as a put-down. It isn't a "competition" issue that made for that specific information not appearing on the MacPro page, Apple has clearly advertised that the new Intel Macs can run windows. Perhaps it was a mere oversight on the webpage though. My problem was that I don't have knowledge about the model processor "Xeon" I was thinking maybe it was a PowerPC chip or unable to do windows for some other reason. So the info I was looking for was specific to the Mac Pro Desktop and/or Xeon. I certainly didn't need to be told that I had buy Windows and not to buy the Mac unless...

I thought the response was irrelavent and to use your word "snotty." And yet you now accuse me of being "snotty." I surely didn't mean to come off that way. I just was a little miffed because I thought "she" was putting me down for asking the question. You know it would be nice since this is a switchers forum if people would be a little nicer to the noobs like me and not be put down for our questions.

Anyhow it seems that this boils down to miscommunication and assumptions including from myself. I am sorry to have started ill feelings here. So SORRY man. Also I have apologized to MacHeadCase as well. I will tred lighter on these forums in the future.
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