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Hello,

I ordered a 15" PowerBook and am awaiting it's arival. I am a programmer by trade and have generally used GNU/Linux and BSD's on ix86 hardware. I'm a bit scared about diving into a compleatle new OS and hardware set and have a few questions so I won't be to ignorant when I don't read the manual and go straight to playing .

1.) Is the 867MHz PowerPC G4 fast enough to run MacOS X without problems?
2.) I have heard that the Apple arch, unlike the PC, doesn't need as many MHz's for it's use. Is this true? If so what is a 867MHz Apple comparable to in the PC world.
3.) Are airport cards compatable with 802.11a/b?
4.) Should I imidiatly upgrade to MacOS 10.2.5?
5.) Does developer libraries come with the OS, do they need to be purchased, downloaded, etc ...
6.) Does MacOS X come with utilities like MP3/Ogg player and other things allong those lines?
7.) Is there anything else I should know about MacOS X that would be helpfull.

My two greatest worries are that I will get the PowerBook and find it lacking in power (which might be related to a the MHz myth) or it not being worth the money spent. Again, I am new to the Apple world and don't know exactly what to expect.
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Ashcrow @ Apr 21 2003, 02:20 PM
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1.) Is the 867MHz PowerPC G4 fast enough to run MacOS X without problems?
2.) I have heard that the Apple arch, unlike the PC, doesn't need as many MHz's for it's use. Is this true? If so what is a 867MHz Apple comparable to in the PC world.
3.) Are airport cards compatable with 802.11a/b?
4.) Should I imidiatly upgrade to MacOS 10.2.5?
5.) Does developer libraries come with the OS, do they need to be purchased, downloaded, etc ...
6.) Does MacOS X come with utilities like MP3/Ogg player and other things allong those lines?
7.) Is there anything else I should know about MacOS X that would be helpfull.
1 - I am running a powerbook G4 with 500Mhz processor and 768 Megas of RAM. The OS is currently at 10.2.5 and I have had no problems. So I really don't think you will have any problems.

3 - I believe that airport is running 802.11b and airport extreme is running 802.11g. The May issue of MacAddict has an article on wireless networks.

5 - The developer option part of my 10.2 installation media.

Hopefully this is of some help.

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1 - I am running a powerbook G4 with 500Mhz processor and 768 Megas of RAM.  The OS is currently at 10.2.5 and I have had no problems.  So I really don't think you will have any problems.

3 - I believe that airport is running 802.11b and airport extreme is running 802.11g.  The May issue of MacAddict has an article on wireless networks.

5 - The developer option part of my 10.2 installation media.

Hopefully this is of some help.
Is the 768 Megs of RAM manditory to keep the OS running smoothly?
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No it is not manditory. I think it is 256 megs of RAM is, but the more RAM you have the better.

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I would max out the RAM as soon as you can. Don't buy the RAM from Apple it is too expensive. I got the RAM for my iMax at http://memoryx.net. I tried using some other company out of California, and the RAM was bad and their service sucked. I will try to put a link here when I remeber who it was

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Originally posted by Ashcrow@Apr 21 2003, 04:20 PM
Hello,

I ordered a 15" PowerBook and am awaiting it's arival. I am a programmer by trade and have generally used GNU/Linux and BSD's on ix86 hardware. I'm a bit scared about diving into a compleatle new OS and hardware set and have a few questions so I won't be to ignorant when I don't read the manual and go straight to playing .

1.) Is the 867MHz PowerPC G4 fast enough to run MacOS X without problems?
2.) I have heard that the Apple arch, unlike the PC, doesn't need as many MHz's for it's use. Is this true? If so what is a 867MHz Apple comparable to in the PC world.
3.) Are airport cards compatable with 802.11a/b?
4.) Should I imidiatly upgrade to MacOS 10.2.5?
5.) Does developer libraries come with the OS, do they need to be purchased, downloaded, etc ...
6.) Does MacOS X come with utilities like MP3/Ogg player and other things allong those lines?
7.) Is there anything else I should know about MacOS X that would be helpfull.

My two greatest worries are that I will get the PowerBook and find it lacking in power (which might be related to a the MHz myth) or it not being worth the money spent. Again, I am new to the Apple world and don't know exactly what to expect.
Congrats with the new mac!

1. Yes more than fast enuf.
2. 867mhz comparable to..
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www.apple.com/g4 (browse those sub catagories and get more info.)
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4. Shur why not.
5. Im pretty shur, Ive got all the developer tools released on cd, and all of the ones possible to download.(macosx is made for the developer )
6. yeah it does. iTunes. (i recommend going to www.versiontracker.com/macosx and downloading VLC)
7. You can burn a cd or dvd by just putting the media in, putting files in it and draging it to where the trash would be. There is nothing macosx cant do . I am a Mac OSX Developer. Enjoy the mac world!
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Thanks! I can't wait to play with my new Mac . What do you develop?
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I develop for FireStorm but, we've kinda taken a break for a while, atleast until summer when I don't have classes to worry about.

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I did development on some of the security enchanced dev tools for Linux/Unix and also wrote LSI which is a simple standard GUI installer for any modern *nix system. Obviously, I'm now interested in Mac dev since I have that Powerbook comming .

Here is another question. I noticed that there is antivirus software for MacOS X. Is it really needed?
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During the many years that I have been working with UNIX (Irix, AIX, Solaris...),
I have not seen an UNIX virus. Most of the problems, with UNIX is of the attack
nature. IMHO, I don't think so, at least not at this time.

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Nahh, theres really no need for it. I play it safe and have two firewalls up to block against hackers (hardware and software).. and I dont download really suspicious looking files.
(course im not to worried ive got my HD backed up in DVDs)

I have been on an apple since birth, and on the internet since 93, not one virus yet. i could just be lucky tho.
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Ok I just wanted to make sure. I had the same experience in the Linux/Unix community as well and just wanted to play it safe before I subject this puppy to the net.
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Here is yet another question . I read that OSX.3 will be released sometime in the realitivly near future. Does Apple have free updates available for users to upgrade to the newest version of OS X or do you have to pay the 129$ for each OS X.x release?
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They have special deals, like last year for 10.2 I bought a imac with 10.1.5 and they had 19.99 S&H for the update, because I bought it with in a certain time period before the release.
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Thats not so bad then.
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