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CB, you did restart after the Erase free space thing, yes? A few places I've seen said that restarting cleared the temp file.
Well the temp file thing never finished...like I said it just hung there for like a 1/2 and hour so I clicked the "skip" button and then yes, restarted.
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Lordie! I sure am stumped then... I'm pretty sure it's safe to drag that Previous System.localized to the trash. Just don't empty the trash for a couple of days to make sure all is well.

But till you empty your trash it won't show more free space. Besides, like you said, 3+GB isn't all that much either.

One thing you can do is start from your Mac OS X installation CD and run Disk Utility and ask it to repair the disk (not disk permissions), see what it comes up with. Better yet, if you have DiskWarrior this is something it could possibly take care of.

If anyone knows the answer to this one, now is the time to jump in here.

CB, if no one comes in here with an answer, post in the Apple Discussions forums.
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CB, if no one comes in here with an answer, post in the Apple Discussions forums.
Oh dear...I may get in trouble for not using the search feature. Hehehehe....




I'll do it anyway!
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Well good luck in finding the truth, fella. Just remember to report back here with the answer if you get one to help out anyone else who might have this problem some time soon. :girl:
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Well good luck in finding the truth, fella. Just remember to report back here with the answer if you get one to help out anyone else who might have this problem some time soon. :girl:
Roger that!
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Just had a look over there myself just now and came up with this thread. Take a look at all the links some are very helpful.

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And this thread could be good too if you want to mess with Terminal.
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Just had a look over there myself just now and came up with this thread. Take a look at all the links some are very helpful.

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And this thread could be good too if you want to mess with Terminal.
Well at this point I'm wondering if it's even that important. Unlike the people having a similar problem I have not lost my disk space (maybe becuase I used the "skip" feature which canceled the whole process I guess)...

Using the terminal.app is a little out of my expertise and makes me nervous. What happens after I get to the "listing of the contents of the directory where the temporary files were saved in the earlier case..."? How do I get out of the terminal.app thing and back to normal? Kinda sounds like a M$ thing...almost.

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Getting out of Terminal, I heard, was plenty easy: you simply type, after you're done, exit.

Well too bad we couldn't find something definitive. I suppose that you can always post at Apple Discussions and ask for assistance, see if they can't get you out of this one and insist on getting an answer. I think that those who did have a file in the trash taking up all the space had let the process almost run to the end except it jammed on the temp file deletion at the end. So me thinks that file is stuck in your Mac's ether somewhere and is not showing up but the system knows it's there anyways. Kinda like sitting on a fence if you ask me.

I know you emptied caches as you wrote somewhere in this thread but did you empty all the caches? Namely your user and all users caches, the system's cache, browser caches and the font cache?

Well anywho, I'll keep my eye open for this one and if I can come up with something, I'll post back!
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so, if you do a 'get info' on your hard drive now, or at the bottom of finder, what do you see as your free space? from that picture of whatsize i can' see how you've got that much space taken up, though you're probably cropping some of the stuff to the left out, correct?
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No. I'm completely cool with my disk space etc. No problem whatsoever. Instead of quitting the disk utiluity program like some others did who are complaining about lost capacity, when it hung I just clicked "skip" and everything was fine after it ran the skip routine.

I just think this whole process seems to be useless.
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I get that disk is full warning, too. There's a check box where you can tell it not to warn you again (but the check box must be ticked the next time you run erase free space, so it's useless).

Sometimes (my disk has four partitions, one of them with only OS X on it, no documents) I have only 944 kilobytes of free space left. I restart the machine and empty the trash, which usually works. But one time the trash told me it wouldn't open because it was secure deleting 29 gigabytes, and I couldn't stop it from doing so.

I could only power off the computer. When I restarted it and opened the trash, the folder was "Rescued Files" 29 gigs worth. So I simply emptied it, and all was well.
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Yo Brown Study...trouble is I can not get the darn thing to complete the process. After it gives me that "your startup disk is almost full" message and click OK it just sits there and won't complete the process. Maybe I have to leave it over night...dunno. Nothing is in the trash at that point so I clicked skip and got out of the program. Done that twice now. Wrong?
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I've gone through this too often. You could wait til **** freezes over, and nothing will change. If the power button won't shut it down, unplug and restart it, then open the trash or check the free space by creating a folder and setting it on List view. Or simply see if Empty Trash is available in the menu.

Edit: Most of the trouble occurs when I set the thing for a wipe of 35 times (I think the machine runs out of RAM or something. Maybe there's a RAM leak). I seldom have any trouble now, if I set it to wipe 7 times. I've never had any trouble setting it to wipe only once.
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I've gone through this too often. You could wait til **** freezes over, and nothing will change. If the power button won't shut it down, unplug and restart it, then open the trash or check the free space by creating a folder and setting it on List view. Or simply see if Empty Trash is available in the menu.
Like I've said earlier...I think it's not that important. The process is flawed and sort of renders it useless.

Thanks for the advice though.
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Nope won't work. Did the exact same thing. ``...Erasing free space" for about an hour+ and then ``...creating temporty file"...finally the message ``...your startup disk is almost full". So I hit OK and it just hangs there. Then clicked "skip" to get out of disk utility...restarted and here I am.

So, what good is this feature if you apparently never have enough disk space to create the temp file? BTW there was nothing in the trash during this entire process. Not happy.

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It may not have been able to do the final "backflips" but if it wrote over the freespace with zero's or whatever, you accomplished what you were trying to do. That is make any deleted files that are just sitting there in free space unrecoverable.

BTW how many times are you setting it for? One? 7 or 35? I would only do it for one pass.

Worked ok for me, finished up and everything but remember, if it does the overwriting of the freespace, you accomplished your goal.
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