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Okay, through the help of this board I've unraveled most of my newbie switcher issues, except this one. All I'm trying to do is get my iMac (Intel) to talk with my iBook G4. Both are brand new, OSX. The are no Win machines in the loop -- it's a pure Mac OSX network. I'm using a Linksys "b" system. Accessing the internet is stoopid easy on both machines. But I want the machines to see each other to share files, iTunes libraries, printer, etc.

I've created the appropriate network (I can easily get the internet, the Airport icon shows 4 bars), I've set sharing to Personal File Sharing, Print Sharing, Windows Sharing and Personal Web Sharing (the only categories that remotely look applicable -- I realize web sharing and windows sharing shouldn't apply). The firewall is off. Both machines have identical settings.

And yet I cannot get either machine to "see" the other. I've tried setting individual folder options to "read & write" for others and for a group called "network." I've set iTunes up for "sharing."

I've repaired permissions.

Still Zip. Nada. VERY frustrating. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to be switching to an Extreme base with Express remote later this week, and I'd love for this aspect of the Mac world to be as easy as the rest of the stuff. (I could do this in Win XP without much fanfare using their "home network wizard" -- hate to blaspheme here on the Mac board, but that's what I'd do in the "old" days). BTW, I've run the "assist me" think in the System:Network folder.

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In System Preferences, Networking and the Apple Talk tab, have you checked Make AppleTalk Active?

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Give it a try.
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How are you trying to "see" the other computer? Open up a new finder window and click on "Network" or in the task bar select "Go". If you see nothing under either that looks like the other computer, from the GO menu select "Connect to Server" and type in the address of the other Mac (Look in the other Mac sharing panel and it will tell you what address to use). Assuming it finds the other computer or "Server" it will ask you for the username/password and will allow you create an alias under Network so you can easily access it in the future. You will have to do this on both Macs but once you do it, access will be easy. If you are an admin on both, you will be given the option to mount only the profile or the actual HDD of the other computer on your desktop.


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I thought Apple Talk was an older protocol. Baggs -- I'll try that. Thanks.
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i believe its called bonjour now.
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Apple talk still works fine. Bonjour is a newer protocol.


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Appletalk works just fine and for networking between Macs I have found it VERY reliable.
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Okay, tried Baggs' approach and that worked provided both machines had a user logged on. Is this always the case? In WinXP, the network would access computers whether or not they were logged on; that is, I could get files from Machine B while I was on Machine A even if no one was logged onto Machine B at the time.

Seems less than completely useful to have to have users logged onto each machine in the house to be able to have access to folders.
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Okay, tried Baggs' approach and that worked provided both machines had a user logged on. Is this always the case? In WinXP, the network would access computers whether or not they were logged on; that is, I could get files from Machine B while I was on Machine A even if no one was logged onto Machine B at the time.

Seems less than completely useful to have to have users logged onto each machine in the house to be able to have access to folders.
Well, I installed an Airport Extreme Base and an Airport Express remote with excellent results. The process was a bit cumbersome despite the "assistants" and I ended up resetting the Extreme many times to go through the process from the start as the Extreme would be recognized. As has been written, the confusion comes, I think, from Apple deciding not to use industry jargon (e.g., SSID, access point, etc.) and use their own naming convention. I'm certain I ended up naming something wrong or using a wrong password (everything is called "name" and "password" whether its your ISP, the base, or anything else).

System runs great everywhere in the house, but obviously each computer must be "active" (logged onto) for "sharing" to work -- unless I'm missing something. As an XP switcher, this is a bit disappointing as one of the benefits of a Windows ptp network was that you could retrieve a file off the den computer from the bedroom computer without having to go log onto the den computer.

If there's another way to approach this, I'd be very happy to hear it.
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I want to know too, I have been looking forever for this answer. There is a solution called Sharepoints but I know there has to be a built in solution to this.
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Well, I installed an Airport Extreme Base and an Airport Express remote with excellent results. The process was a bit cumbersome despite the "assistants" and I ended up resetting the Extreme many times to go through the process from the start as the Extreme would be recognized. As has been written, the confusion comes, I think, from Apple deciding not to use industry jargon (e.g., SSID, access point, etc.) and use their own naming convention. I'm certain I ended up naming something wrong or using a wrong password (everything is called "name" and "password" whether its your ISP, the base, or anything else).

System runs great everywhere in the house, but obviously each computer must be "active" (logged onto) for "sharing" to work -- unless I'm missing something. As an XP switcher, this is a bit disappointing as one of the benefits of a Windows ptp network was that you could retrieve a file off the den computer from the bedroom computer without having to go log onto the den computer.

If there's another way to approach this, I'd be very happy to hear it.

You can log on and then simply return the machine to the log on screen, without logging out, via the fast user-switching feature that you can enable in User Prefs Pane (I think that's what it's called, not in front of a Mac right now). That way you are logged in, but the machine will be locked and the screen will show the login screen.


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