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That would be GUID to boot an Intel Mac.

The other two options are:
Apple Partition Map - to boot PPC Macs
Master Boot Record - for Windows

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Nice catch. I was still trying to figure out what was wrong with that statement by the time you posted the answer.

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Thanks to each of you for your reply! I was glad to hear specifically that Mike T., chscag, and Rod S. have successfully used My Passport.
Bobtomay, thanks for the clarification that partition should be GUID; and thanks to slydude for confirming!
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That would be GUID to boot an Intel Mac.

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Oops, thanks for the correction I have edited that post accordingly, must have been thinking of fly spray.

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Thanks to each of you for your reply! I was glad to hear specifically that Mike T., chscag, and Rod S. have successfully used My Passport.
Bobtomay, thanks for the clarification that partition should be GUID; and thanks to slydude for confirming!
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No worries ELK, I have edited that reply, silly me, a bit of brain fade there.

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I've never done a TimeMachine backup or cloning, I have simply saved important stuff piecemeal on thumbdrives or CDs as backups (which has become rather pack rat-like over a few years). Since the price of externals has dramatically decreased of late, I am investigating and considering this much more efficient method!
According to this macworld article I can use a single external drive (of sufficient size) to backup both my macbook and my husband's iMac. Would this require partitioning or other different steps than if it were just one computer?

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I've never done a TimeMachine backup or cloning, I have simply saved important stuff piecemeal on thumbdrives or CDs as backups (which has become rather pack rat-like over a few years).
Just in case you haven't read post #1 of this thread. Please give it a read...you may find it a helpful overview.

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Uh, I've been a member here for a little while. I read this entire thread, followed links from the original post, and have searched for an answer online as well. Not saying I haven't missed something, I simply want to know if there are additional steps when backing up two machines to the same external harddrive. I guess specific questions for clarification are no longer welcome around here. I'll remember to begin all future questions with "after searching this forum and the internet for an answer..."

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Uh, I've been a member here for a little while. I read this entire thread, followed links from the original post, and have searched for an answer online as well.

I guess specific questions for clarification are no longer welcome around here. I'll remember to begin all future questions with "after searching this forum and the internet for an answer..."
And how is posting this helpful?? We can't read your mind…so I really do not know what you have done prior to asking your question…or what your level of computing expertise is. But let me please clue you in on something. When someone begins a posting with this statement:

"I've never done a TimeMachine backup or cloning, I have simply saved important stuff piecemeal on thumbdrives or CDs as backups (which has become rather pack rat-like over a few years)."

It's generally a pretty good assumption that the person posting this info is not a computing expert…or at least…is not a data backup expert!

This is why I suggested reading post #1 of this thread. So if there were some things you did not know…post #1 of this thread would provide a GREAT overview of a subject that you have already admitted...you don't know much about…and haven't done before (a Time Machine backup or a hard drive cloning).

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Forgive me. Setting aside my error in improperly identifying myself or my level of expertise, I specifically asked twice if anything is required in addition to the provided information in order to backup two computers on a single external. If you don't want to give me the answer (which I have not found on my own), please allow someone else to tell me?

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According to this macworld article I can use a single external drive (of sufficient size) to backup both my macbook and my husband's iMac. Would this require partitioning or other different steps than if it were just one computer?
Partitioning would be best. Theoretically, Time Machine would be able to separately identify the backups and not mix them up. However, for safety sake, it's best to partition the external hard drive and name each partition. Use simple names that are not confusing: Mary's backup, John's backup and so on. You get the idea.

As inexpensive as external hard drives are nowadays, it may be better to buy two drives, one for your Mac and the other for your husband's Mac. The reason this may be better is if for example, the single hard drive should fail you would lose both backups. Keeping the backups separate on separate hard drives is a safer route to take. But of course, that's completely up to you to decide.
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Thanks, chscag, I appreciate the info and point of view. Will consider two drives.

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As a longterm PC user who is now transitioning back to Mac (used Mac's in college over 20 years ago) I want to make sure that I set things up correctly from the get go. In that I backup my pc's with 2 online cloud services, DroboN5 system (NAS) on the home network as well as external HDD drives (yes, I like redundancy, I find the Mac choices a bit befuddling. I have ordered a LaCie 2big 6TB-2 Thunderbolt system backup drive that I plan to use Time Machine for. Plan to also use another HDD external drive to make as a bootable disk. Am I making this overly complicated or will the LaCie also serve as a bootable disk through Time Machine?

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It's always best to have redundancy with your backups which it seems you've planned for. One thing you need to know... Time Machine backups are not bootable. You will need software which can clone your hard drive and be able to boot with the clone. Being as you're coming from the Windows world I'm sure you're familiar with Acronis True Image. That's the type of software you will need. Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper are similar to Acronis. I use Carbon Copy Cloner in addition to Time Machine (2 separate external hard drives).
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It's always best to have redundancy with your backups which it seems you've planned for. One thing you need to know... Time Machine backups are not bootable. You will need software which can clone your hard drive and be able to boot with the clone. Being as you're coming from the Windows world I'm sure you're familiar with Acronis True Image. That's the type of software you will need. Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper are similar to Acronis. I use Carbon Copy Cloner in addition to Time Machine (2 separate external hard drives).
Thanks for the reply. I use Acronis with the Drobo 5N. I have also ordered 2 additional 4TB drives to add to the Drobo which I had planed to format for MAC. I had read that Drobo is not very compatible with Mac, but am willing to try it anyway. Worst case scenario is I format it for the PC and then I have an additional 4TB of storage (RAID 1 setup). It is the bootable disk part that I am not sure of in regards to the Drobo and the LaCie drives. I have thought I would just get another external HDD drive to make it a bootable disk to keep in a drawer until it became necessary.

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