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Agree with Randy. I have not seen one case of that Malware on anyones Macs.

Be sure though and install the Java update and be safe just in case.

I truly believe the 600K is highly exaggerated.
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I'm running bit defender for Mac on my machine, is it any good?
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Agree with Randy. I have not seen one case of that Malware on anyones Macs.

Be sure though and install the Java update and be safe just in case.

I truly believe the 600K is highly exaggerated.
I posted my view on this 600000 earlier this week.
Knowing that any initial assessment is wrong , during any investigation my first question has always been .... who would have an interest in counting the number of infections and where do the numbers come from.
Facts is what matters and from the responses on this forum, the success rate of this malware is low.
I still believe that the intentions of this malware was to create a proof of concept, nothing more.

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Just found this ..... and I don't trust this at all .....

Web tool checks if your Mac is Flashback-free | MacFixIt - CNET Reviews

Read the article carefully and try to visualize the concept of the service they are talking about. :-)

If this is any indication where the ( so called infection ) numbers come from , then this is very dodgy, to say the least.

Only my 2 cents of course and I may be totally wrong ( paranoid )

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Keep in mind that if the number of infected systems really is 600K, that would only be about 1% of Mac users.

How many of us have a hundred Macs we can check? If you haven't checked at least that many randomly-chosen Macs, you can't expect to have seen even one infected system even if that number is correct.

So "600k infections" and "very low infection rate" can both be true.

In any event, even if the number is half that, this is still a watershed in Mac security.
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So i came across this thread and thought this would be a good place to get some opinions.

I just bought an iMac and still in the 2 week return period. I am finding that I can't get it out of my head about the security on here. So much so that I am considering returning this and looking for another PC laptop. I am new to Mac and basically spent my whole life using windows. That being said. I am someone who doesn't know really much about the 'in's and out's' of computers in general. I have basically let the antivirus on my PCs shield me from anything on the net and warn me of anything funny looking. And basically until now I really have only had a few issues over the years.

My thing is, I feel like to get that same 'piece of mind' feeling (relative, I know) with a Mac you kind of have to know what you are doing and know operating systems?
All I have read is- stay away from this, don't do that, look for this, keep up with the news.
When I was on my PC, I had antivirus, and let that take care of everything. I was all over the net. I mean this is when I would get on I wouldn't worry about it. Like I said I really don't use computers much except for the basic- surfing and Microsoft office here and there. Honestly, I just love the look of a Mac.
Though I have read there are no viruses out there for Macs, there are a few Malwares and Trojans and more being produced as we speak? I have really worked myself up to thinking that some Malware is going to be secretly installed on my system and steal my identity.
I am pretty nervous to just go surf freely like I did with my PC and I feel like I must be in the know about Mac software, the internet, and updates to safely use it or fix anything that arises.

...So If this made any sense, what do you think?
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My thing is, I feel like to get that same 'piece of mind' feeling (relative, I know) with a Mac you kind of have to know what you are doing and know operating systems?
Yes and no. Yes, you'll need to know the basics but that comes with time (like anything else in life). However, you don't need to know the inner workings of OS X to be safe.

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I am pretty nervous to just go surf freely like I did with my PC and I feel like I must be in the know about Mac software, the internet, and updates to safely use it or fix anything that arises.
You shouldn't be surfing "freely" (I'm taking that to mean with impunity) regardless of what operating system you're using. Stick to reputable content on the internet and you'll be fine. If something asks for your password, don't provide it unless you know what it is. If something asks you to install a plug-in or additional content and it's something you're not familiar with, don't do it or ask us. This is no different than how Windows users browse the web (or should).

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Yes and no. Yes, you'll need to know the basics but that comes with time (like anything else in life). However, you don't need to know the inner workings of OS X to be safe.

You shouldn't be surfing "freely" (I'm taking that to mean with impunity) regardless of what operating system you're using. Stick to reputable content on the internet and you'll be fine. If something asks for your password, don't provide it unless you know what it is. If something asks you to install a plug-in or additional content and it's something you're not familiar with, don't do it or ask us. This is no different than how Windows users browse the web (or should).
What are Plugins?
What is the criteria for reputable websites?
I mean I can't say I haven't visited some porn sites like a lot of the world. But PC anitvirus caught anything there for the most part.
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Plugins are pieces of software that are loaded by the browser during normal operations to handle content that the browser can't. For example, Adobe's Flash is a browser plugin.

Criteria for reputability? Common sense. It's hard to give you an perfect set of criteria that will apply in every circumstance. Use your judgment skills to determine whether or not something is reputable. If in doubt, do a quick Google search.

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Sorry, I was wondering why it was there twice!
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I am a Windows repair tech. I see every brand of AntiVirus installed and UP TO DATE yet sometimes 1000's of Malware on that said computer that the so called AntiVirus did not stop from infecting the systems.

I have been using OSX since 10.2 Jaguar and never once had an issue. I run no AntiVirus and go where I want to go on the net, thousands of sites a day. No porn though.

Most of the people who's windows systems on which I have to remove all that Malware do not surf porn either.
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So i came across this thread and thought this would be a good place to get some opinions.

I just bought an iMac and still in the 2 week return period. I am finding that I can't get it out of my head about the security on here. So much so that I am considering returning this and looking for another PC laptop.
Here is the deal: Macintosh OS X is secure enough that a single Trojan has Mac users writing posts in the tens of thousands on multiple Mac oriented forums, blogs and social networks, etc. For that matter, it is unique enough a situtation to have Windows fans writing tens of thousands of "gotcha" posts.

How many times do you see this level reaction to a new piece of Windows malware? This trojan is getting the attention levels you see because this is a very rare event: an actual piece of malware that has successfully penetrated Macintosh security in the wild.

Despite the level of excitement/concern over the Flashback trojan, Mac OS X still remains among the most secure operating systems available. There has yet to be an actual virus in the wild, and very few trojans. Plus, if you still feel the need for additional security, there are AV utilities made for Macintosh. After all, it was the AV software, and not Windows, which let you feel secure while operating a Windows PC. It certainly isn't the OS. ( Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10*viruses | Naked Security)

As for myself, using basic precautions on Macintosh computers has kept me malware free since before the internet, when malware was traded back and forth on floppy disks.
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basic precautions on Macintosh computers has kept me malware free since before the internet
That about sums it up really. Stay away from dodgy sites,software and the like.
Make sure your system has all the latest software updates from Apple.

Just be careful what you download and install and don't get sucked in by 'scare' reports about "os x has a virus/malware etc) and you'll have no worries.
Don't buy any AV software you see on an advert claiming to do this and that. AV companies love it when stories like "flashback" come out.

(If using Safari uncheck 'Open "safe" files after downloading')

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(If using Safari uncheck 'Open "safe" files after downloading')
I wanted to make that a little larger to emphasize it.

The open safe files security hole (I can't call it a feature) was a terrible design decision. If you're using Safari, unchecking it should be the next thing you do.

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