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  1. #151


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    I have a new MacBook Pro and downloaded 'Bitedefender Virus Scanner' from the Apple Apps Store, runs once a day and automatic updates with current software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murasaki View Post
    I have a new MacBook Pro and downloaded 'Bitedefender Virus Scanner' from the Apple Apps Store, runs once a day and automatic updates with current software.

    You should know that Bit Defender is not a particularly effective anti-virus program. In a recent test, it could only detect 58% of the known active threats that exist for the Macintosh:
    http://www.reedcorner.net/downloads/...sults_2013.pdf

    Though that shouldn't be too big a cause for concern, because at this point in time, no anti-virus software is necessary for the Macintosh. A quote from the Web site cited above:

    "However, it is important to keep in mind that Mac OS X already does an admirable job of protecting against malware. At this time, there is no known malware capable of infecting a Mac running a properly-updated version of Mac OS X 10.6 or later, with all security settings left at the default (at a minimum)."
    The Safe Mac Mac anti-virus testing, part 2

    What I'd worry more about is the performance hit, and possible software conflicts caused by, deeply embedded anti-virus software running that I don't need.
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    Thanks for the information about the Bitdefender, as it was Free it is now uninstalled

  4. #154

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    What I'd worry more about is the performance hit, and possible software conflicts caused by, deeply embedded anti-virus software running that I don't need.
    This can't be stated often enough! Thanks once more for the links Randy.

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    Anyone interested in the topic of Mac malware should be interested to know that The Safe Mac Web site has a new URL:

    The Safe Mac

    That their Mac malware catalog (which includes ratings of how dangerous each individual threat is) has continued to be meticulously updated:

    The Safe Mac : Mac Malware Guide

    And there this is a more recent comparison test of all of the available anti-virus software programs for the Macintosh:

    The Safe Mac Mac anti-virus testing, part 2
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  6. #156
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    Hi, I have been a Mac user only since the new year (2014). I started with a Mac Mini 2008 model and have since upgraded to a new mini. Before I did anything regarding anti virus and other infections I took notice of all remarks on that subject. After due consideration I decided that those who write on this thread know what they are talking about, consequently I have not installed any anti virus software or any other software of that nature. I can say with all honesty that I have not had any trouble at all. So THANK YOU all for the advice. I am a convert to Apple Mac - you can stuff Windows up your jumper, it is not for me! Keith in Derby UK.

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    Just keep up to date with Software Updates sllewk and Windows 7 is okay.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    I have "Malwarebytes for MAC" installed and my MacBook Pro and performs well, when I run it. It is FREE.

    Same for Malwarebytes for both WIN pc's + added Webroot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teetertotter View Post
    I have "Malwarebytes for MAC" installed and my MacBook Pro and performs well, when I run it. It is FREE.

    Same for Malwarebytes for both WIN pc's + added Webroot.
    Yes, well covered in this forum in many posts and threads, and often recommended - just ran it on my wife's iMac after she received a false Facebook alert about malware. Dave
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    I have been using a Mac for some years now but have to use windows at work. The trouble with Virus's and Malware is how these people are going to make money with it. Most of the windows based malware is ransom ware where you have to pay to decrypt the files, as Macs become more popular we are soon going to see more of this rubbish finds its way onto the Mac. At present i am using Eset AV for mac as it doesn't seem to slow it down when i run a full scan, and it has protected me against a website that was trying to push something onto my Mac.

    At least with the Mac you have to allow it to install something.

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    Not really Vittorio. This has been a flawed arguement for over ten years since OS X came out. The Unix system is the secret. It will be major world headlines if a virus ever hits OS X blieve you me.

    Malware for sure viruses no.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Not really Vittorio. This has been a flawed arguement for over ten years since OS X came out. The Unix system is the secret. It will be major world headlines if a virus ever hits OS X believe you me.

    Malware for sure viruses no.
    Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teetertotter View Post
    I have "Malwarebytes for MAC" installed and my MacBook Pro and performs well, when I run it. It is FREE.
    Malwarebytes, I'm sure, is a tremendous product for taking care of adware, because it subsumed the excellent product Adware Medic. (A product that only looked for adware. It didn't look for any malware whatsoever.)

    However, even though Malwarebyte's Web site pays some lip service to dealing with "malware" for the Macintosh, I have strong doubts that it looks for much malware at all. For two reasons.

    First, the company doesn't say, what, if any, malware that the product looks for.

    Second, the product does a scan, even on a huge hard drive, that is done in seconds. No genuine anti-virus software for the Macintosh is nearly that fast when doing a full search. I can only assume that's because a through search for everything that might be present simply requires some time. Malwarebytes doesn't do such a search.

    It's nice that Malwarebytes is free, and it's nice that it is a great anti-adware product. But I wouldn't put any faith at all in it doing anything for actual malware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorio View Post
    ...we are soon going to see more of this rubbish finds its way onto the Mac.
    People (mostly Windows bigots) have been saying that OS X will be imminently swamped with malware ...for over 13 years (since OS X was released).

    Here are a few entertaining articles about that:

    Wolf!
    http://daringfireball.net/2011/05/wolf

    Broken Windows
    http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/broken_windows

    So Witty (followup to Broken Windows)
    http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/so_witty



    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorio View Post
    At present i am using Eset AV for mac as it doesn't seem to slow it down when i run a full scan, and it has protected me against a website that was trying to push something onto my Mac.
    OS X has it's own built-in anti-virus software (that Apple is very quiet about, probably to keep the bad guys from focusing on it):

    XProtect/File Quarantine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xprotect
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201940

    However, if you really feel that that you want third party AV software (and in most cases I don't think that Macs users need it), I recommend getting the best program on the market, especially since you can it for a very reasonable price. VirusBarrier has won just about all of the believable comparison tests, it comes from a company that only makes Mac software (that is, it isn't a poorly done port of a Windows program from a company that doesn't understand the Macintosh), it has been around for well over a decade, and it rarely causes annoying side effects:

    Intego's VirusBarrier ($40)
    http://www.intego.com/antivirus-internet-security-x8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post
    Second, the product does a scan, even on a huge hard drive, that is done in seconds. No genuine anti-virus software for the Macintosh is nearly that fast when doing a full search. I can only assume that's because a through search for everything that might be present simply requires some time. Malwarebytes doesn't do such a search.
    Definitely an interesting observation…large storage devices certainly would take a long time to scan throughly. I'm going to guess that Malwarebytes probably only scans certain file types…probably with the OS directories. This would speed things up greatly…and certainly wouldn't be a 100% scan of the storage device.

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