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Hi,
I was going to buy a 21.5" iMac tomorrow, but just browsing the apple website and mac forums and have only just realised that OS X Lion is coming this summer!

As it's literally just a few months away, is it advised I wait for Lion? If I don't wait, is it easy to upgrade the os? (this is my first mac). Is going from snow leopard to tiger, just like vista to 7? is it completely different of just minor tweaks?

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IMO dont wait until Lion comes out bc honestly no one has any idea of exactly it will come out, but yes it indicates that it will be this summer.
Once it comes out  has made it a easy process to install a OS so to answer that, YES it is easy install.

So all in all dont wait bc if you need the iMac now get it now.. If you can wait until Maybe it comes out soon you could be waiting a while

Im sure its a TYPO but going from SL to Tiger (Lion you mean) will be completely different. Go to apple site and have a look at there preview of lion . . . . . It goes down the iOS interface way.

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Lion (OS X 10.7) will be a major upgrade from Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6). See:
Apple - Mac OS X Lion
Mac OS X Lion Developer Preview Sports Host of New Features
iOS on the Desktop: Hands-On With the OS X 10.7 Lion Preview — NewsGrange

If things are as they have been for past major upgrades, it will be dead easy to move from Snow Leopard to Lion. However, it is also likely to cost about $130 for the upgrade disk.

Should you wait for Lion?...do you need a new Mac now? There is no telling precisely when Lion will be released.

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Sorry, yes I did mean lion - not tiger!
I'd love to get it tomorrow, but I know as soon as lion is available - I'll want it. What have os update prices been in the past? If it's under 100 I don't mind. But if it's 100+ that's going to taint it slightly as forking out 1,300 for an iMac is a lot (well for me it is).
On a side note, say for instance a year after lion is released, will it fall in price?
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Sorry randy b. Singer... You managed to post before I replied!
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On a side note, say for instance a year after lion is released, will it fall in price?
Nope, at least it's never been that way for any OS update previously.

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From TattooedMac's link:
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We’re taking our best thinking from iPad and bringing it all to the Mac with Mac OS X Lion, available in winter 2011
It's going to be a long wait, I would buy the mac now.

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I reviewed the preview of Lion. It looks like the controls system is based on swipe and trackpad. On my Mini, I use a mouse and keyboard. I have never been comfortable using the mouse trackpads on any laptop and use a regular mouse even on my laptops.

Will there be any real benefit to Lion if the swipe and trackpad functions are not used? Can Lion be controlled with a regular mouse?

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It's going to be a long wait, I would buy the mac now.

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That is from the Aust Store. This is the SS from the US store, but if the Winter prediction is true we should see it in about 3 months time


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If you are in need of a computer, it's faintly ridiculous to hold off somewhere between 5-9 MONTHS in order to POSSIBLY save $130 (ps. at current exchange rates, Lion would be priced around 80, add in Apple's usual penalty for not be a Merkin and it's likely to sell for 99).

Mac owners tend to fall into two camps: must upgrade on first day of release, and those who wait two to six months to "get the kinks out" of any new software release. I can't justify denying myself a Mac for half a year or more just to get Lion -- particularly when you KNOW there will be a "bug-fix" release a few weeks later.

Bottom line, as I've said here before: waiting for the "next big thing" which is "just around the corner" is generally* a fool's errand. You're going to have this machine for years -- just buy what you need when you need it and don't worry about it. By the time you're ready to replace the Mac, there will be a MUCH better "next big thing" already out several times over. IOW, *having* a Mac (particularly if you use it to do anything productive or profitable) is being ahead of the game over *waiting* for a Mac. IMO.

* the exception to this rule is if Apple has made it clear (ie, not a rumour, but an actual announcement) that a significant upgrade of a product is coming in the next week or two, as they did with the iPad 2.
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That is from the Aust Store. This is the SS from the US store, but if the Winter prediction is true we should see it in about 3 months time
Um ... isn't Australia's winter in what we North Americans call the summer months? So we're talking about the same time frame.

But three months is probably QUITE unrealistic nevertheless -- for starters, Apple *never* releases a major new OS without giving the developers a head start, and the WWDC is in mid-June. I think, particularly looking at Apple's history, that there is VERY LITTLE chance of Lion coming out before late August, maybe even early September. That is why they are being cagey about the use of the term "summer" ("winter" in the southern hemisphere).
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Um ... isn't Australia's winter in what we North Americans call the summer months? So we're talking about the same time frame.
Well i did call 3months until winter right. Where in the 3 months after that is anyones guess. I know about  releases, but as i said they say winter and too me winter is in less than 3 months and that is why i bought it up.

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I'm going to guess Lion won't be out until very end of Aug at the earliest if it doesn't slip into a Fall release. Given that they just started beta testing, I can't imagine it coming earlier, but who really knows.

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Sorry, yes I did mean lion - not tiger!
I'd love to get it tomorrow, but I know as soon as lion is available - I'll want it.
I always recommend that users wait a few months after a new major upgrade to OS X is released before purchasing it and installing it. That allows other users time to find all the bugs, and Apple time to release an update or two to squash those bugs.

For instance, there was a major bug in both OS X 10.4.0 and OS X 10.5.0 that caused some users to lose data on their Firewire hard drives.

Waiting a few months also gives folks time to write articles detailing what applications need to be updated for the new OS, and it gives developers time to come out with updates to their applications for the new OS. This helps you to avoid being without mission critical applications without an update available.

With Snow Leopard, it was a while after it was released before there were updated drivers for many printers and scanners available. (Despite the fact that many new drivers came with the OS.)

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Apple products are just about never discounted while they are still current and being sold as new. You might be able to qualify for an educational discount if you are a student, though.

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Well funny enough, when I saw OS X Lion on Apple's website, I also noted the new MacBook Pro. I read about it all and one of the main interests I took was in 'Tunderbolt'.
So I clicked the 'Learn more about thunderbolt' to find out more. When I had this interesting discovery...
Perhaps new iMac hardware?
Apple - Thunderbolt: Next-generation high-speed I/O technology.
Its just that the top picture of the iMac looks a little different to the current outgoing iMac - so thought perhaps Apple are bringing out an all-new iMac.

I've been reading the previews of OS X Lion and I really think the next iMac is going to have a touchscreen - so if its in the pipeline, as I've waited this long, I may as well wait a little longer if new hardware is a few months away. I'm in no dyer need for an iMac. I've already got a windows desktop and windows laptop - would just like an iMac.
So. do you think a new iMac is on the way - and is this it?
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