create bootable thumb drive from pc

westikle · westikle #1 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:05 PM

hi,

my brother has given me his old macbook pro (2007 i believe) and it has no hard drive in it. he told me he was pretty sure that was the only problem with it, but before i go and buy a replacement, i want to make sure the rest of the computer is fine. i have an os x leopard disc and an 8gig thumb drive and want to make it bootable. the only problem is i use a pc. is there any programs or any way i can format my flash drive for mac and create a bootable os x from a pc?

thanks
wes

louishen · louishen #2 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:10 PM

You are better off booting the mac from the leopard disk

insert he leopard disk and hold down the C key when you boot her up, if the macbook loads of the install disk then you can be sure the computer is oK

TattooedMac · TattooedMac #3 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:18 PM

Hi westikle and welcome to M-F . . . .

In Short NO . . . . .When trying to mount OS X it mounts as a .dmg and because OS X cant run on windows it cant be done... I have searched around and IF the .dmg isnt a Mac Native App/Program then there is some windows software out there can can change the .dmg to a .iso file, but not a OS

You will be needing a Mac to be able to put the OS on the thumb drive, so put the disk in and boot from the Leopard disk ....

But for more info Google ....... DMG unpack windows and you will see what i mean

Cheers

cwa107 · cwa107 #4 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:21 PM

There's a number of different options here - most notably simply booting from the OS X disc (assuming it's compatible with the machine - non-Intel versions may not be).

Aside from that, you can use the Windows machine to create an Ubuntu Live CD. Or even boot the machine from a Windows disc.

westikle · westikle #5 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:52 PM

jesus i'm an idiot. thanks everyone for the tip. i've turned it on now but the screen isn't working. guess i'm moving on to the next problem. thanks again!

shouldn't the screen still come on with no hard drive installed?

cwa107 · cwa107 #6 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by westikle

jesus i'm an idiot. thanks everyone for the tip. i've turned it on now but the screen isn't working. guess i'm moving on to the next problem. thanks again!

shouldn't the screen still come on with no hard drive installed?

Yes, during the power-on self-test, you should get a gray screen and eventually an icon indicating there are no boot devices. Try attaching to an external display to see if you're getting video at all.

TattooedMac · TattooedMac #7 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westikle

jesus i'm an idiot.

Always remember there is no silly/stupid questions only silly/stupid answers

Quote:

Originally Posted by westikle

shouldn't the screen still come on with no hard drive installed?

Yes it should come on. Are you getting anything at all ?? Chimes ??

westikle · westikle #8 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 03:58 PM

yes it chimes and the disc drive spins, but no screen. don't know if it matters but the battery is super low and the computer has been sitting in a near freezing room.

TattooedMac · TattooedMac #9 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 04:03 PM

Well a low battery isnt going to help the situation as well as freezing conditions. . . . Might be a  Thing to keep the display off if its that low ... Dont quote me, just throwing it out there

And as cwa posted ^^ Try connecting it to another display and see what you get

westikle · westikle #10 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 06:34 PM

no dice. i hooked up my desktop monitor to it and still no display. i don't know anything about a mac but is there some kind of beep or something to indicate a hardware failure?

TattooedMac · TattooedMac #11 (**permalink**)

12-27-2010, 07:48 PM

Hmm Well no graphics could mean ~ Graphics Card is gone ?? Just guessing here.

You can do a hardware test via the install DVD but since you cant see what is going on that would seem useless

You mentioned that the HDD has been removed. I would be now unhooking everything, and opening this sucker up. When the HDD was removed, whoever removed it could of, not knowingly broken a wire, touch something they shouldnt have or broken something they shouldnt have while removing the HDD .. Open it up and have a real good look around as this seems to be the end of my knowledge of trouble shooting this problem . . .

Dont fret though as someone else could pop in with a obvious answer we have both over looked.
But have a look inside and see what you can see

Cheers

westikle · westikle #12 (**permalink**)

12-28-2010, 11:24 AM

so i called my brother to ask if he ever had any problems with the display and i get the whole truth. he had spilled something on the keyboard. now i know this changes everything but, here's the full story anyway (according to him.) he says he was studying for midterms and since he can't smoke in his dorm he was dipping instead. somehow he managed to knock his spit cup on the the keyboard. yeah i know it's nasty. he had to removed some of the keys to clean it out but i'm not really sure how many. it's really clean now and you would never know it had tobaccoey spit all in it at one point. he said it still worked fine for a few days then eventually started acting funny and at one point wouldn't even turn on. it was under warranty (actually i think homeowners insurance covered it) so now he has a new macbook pro. he removed the hard drive out of the old one to try to recover data but had no luck with two different sata adapters or whatever they are called. this is why he assumed it was just the hard drive gone bad. he was surprised to hear that it even chimes when turned on. now i have looked all over this thing with a magnifying glass trying to find something wrong but i can't find anything. my brother says he didn't have to clean anything other than the keyboard and doesn't think his spit made it any further into the computer. spit is afterall very thick and i can't see it just rushing through intricate parts myself. you may or may not be able to discern anything from this but i do have one question. is it possible that a damaged keyboard could cause the screen not to work and there not be anything wrong with the rest of the computer?

thanks
wes

don't dip over your macbook. don't dip anyway it's nasty.

XJ-linux · XJ-linux #13 (**permalink**)

12-28-2010, 12:53 PM

I'd pass on this one personally. It's like a car that's been nearly totaled or submerged in water. It may run fine, then again it may crap out when you need it most. Either way, no one is going to stand behind it after fixing it. Use it for target practice and video record it for posterity.

harryb2448 · harryb2448 #14 (**permalink**)

12-28-2010, 03:55 PM

Wes, she be dead big time. Liquids and electronics are not a good mix!

westikle · westikle #15 (**permalink**)

12-29-2010, 05:30 PM

i've been researching and am thinking that maybe this is one of the models with the faulty nvidia gpu. it is the 15" santa rosa model number A1226. maybe the time of death and spit cup incident are just coincidental. perhaps?

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Member Since: Dec 20, 2006 Location: Middletown, Pennsylvania Posts: 25,917 Mac Specs: 15" MBP, Core i7/2GHz, 8GB RAM, 256GB Crucial M4 SSD	12-27-2010, 03:21 PM There's a number of different options here - most notably simply booting from the OS X disc (assuming it's compatible with the machine - non-Intel versions may not be). Aside from that, you can use the Windows machine to create an Ubuntu Live CD. Or even boot the machine from a Windows disc. Liquid and computers don't mix. It might seem simple, but we see an incredible amount of people post here about spills. Keep drinks and other liquids away from your expensive electronics!
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Member Since: May 19, 2009 Location: Western Astraya Posts: 6,453 Mac Specs: 13"MBP 2.9Ghz Intel Core i7 10.8.3 ~ iPhone5 6.1.3 ~ iPad Mini 6.1.3 ~ ATV2 5.2.1	12-27-2010, 04:03 PM Well a low battery isnt going to help the situation as well as freezing conditions. . . . Might be a  Thing to keep the display off if its that low ... Dont quote me, just throwing it out there And as cwa posted ^^ Try connecting it to another display and see what you get Dont forget to use the Reputation System if someone has helped you out !!! “I have absolutely no pleasure in the stimulants in which I sometimes so madly indulge. It has not been in the pursuit of pleasure that I have periled life and reputation and reason. It has been the desperate attempt to escape from torturing memories, from a sense of insupportable loneliness and a dread of some strange impending doom ….”― Edgar Allan Poe
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Member Since: May 19, 2009 Location: Western Astraya Posts: 6,453 Mac Specs: 13"MBP 2.9Ghz Intel Core i7 10.8.3 ~ iPhone5 6.1.3 ~ iPad Mini 6.1.3 ~ ATV2 5.2.1	12-27-2010, 07:48 PM Hmm Well no graphics could mean ~ Graphics Card is gone ?? Just guessing here. You can do a hardware test via the install DVD but since you cant see what is going on that would seem useless You mentioned that the HDD has been removed. I would be now unhooking everything, and opening this sucker up. When the HDD was removed, whoever removed it could of, not knowingly broken a wire, touch something they shouldnt have or broken something they shouldnt have while removing the HDD .. Open it up and have a real good look around as this seems to be the end of my knowledge of trouble shooting this problem . . . Dont fret though as someone else could pop in with a obvious answer we have both over looked. But have a look inside and see what you can see Cheers Dont forget to use the Reputation System if someone has helped you out !!! “I have absolutely no pleasure in the stimulants in which I sometimes so madly indulge. It has not been in the pursuit of pleasure that I have periled life and reputation and reason. It has been the desperate attempt to escape from torturing memories, from a sense of insupportable loneliness and a dread of some strange impending doom ….”― Edgar Allan Poe
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Member Since: Jul 02, 2007 Location: Going Galt... Posts: 3,125 Mac Specs: MacBookAir5,2:10.8.3-MacMini3,1:10.8.3-iPhone3,1:6.1.3	12-28-2010, 12:53 PM I'd pass on this one personally. It's like a car that's been nearly totaled or submerged in water. It may run fine, then again it may crap out when you need it most. Either way, no one is going to stand behind it after fixing it. Use it for target practice and video record it for posterity. ,_____o00o _ //___l__,\____\,__ l_--- \___l---OlllllllO (o)_)-o- (o)_)--o-)_)
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westikle #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-27-2010, 03:05 PM hi, my brother has given me his old macbook pro (2007 i believe) and it has no hard drive in it. he told me he was pretty sure that was the only problem with it, but before i go and buy a replacement, i want to make sure the rest of the computer is fine. i have an os x leopard disc and an 8gig thumb drive and want to make it bootable. the only problem is i use a pc. is there any programs or any way i can format my flash drive for mac and create a bootable os x from a pc? thanks wes
	QUOTE Thanks

westikle #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-27-2010, 03:52 PM jesus i'm an idiot. thanks everyone for the tip. i've turned it on now but the screen isn't working. guess i'm moving on to the next problem. thanks again! shouldn't the screen still come on with no hard drive installed?
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westikle #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-27-2010, 03:58 PM yes it chimes and the disc drive spins, but no screen. don't know if it matters but the battery is super low and the computer has been sitting in a near freezing room.
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westikle #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-27-2010, 06:34 PM no dice. i hooked up my desktop monitor to it and still no display. i don't know anything about a mac but is there some kind of beep or something to indicate a hardware failure?
	QUOTE Thanks

westikle #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-28-2010, 11:24 AM so i called my brother to ask if he ever had any problems with the display and i get the whole truth. he had spilled something on the keyboard. now i know this changes everything but, here's the full story anyway (according to him.) he says he was studying for midterms and since he can't smoke in his dorm he was dipping instead. somehow he managed to knock his spit cup on the the keyboard. yeah i know it's nasty. he had to removed some of the keys to clean it out but i'm not really sure how many. it's really clean now and you would never know it had tobaccoey spit all in it at one point. he said it still worked fine for a few days then eventually started acting funny and at one point wouldn't even turn on. it was under warranty (actually i think homeowners insurance covered it) so now he has a new macbook pro. he removed the hard drive out of the old one to try to recover data but had no luck with two different sata adapters or whatever they are called. this is why he assumed it was just the hard drive gone bad. he was surprised to hear that it even chimes when turned on. now i have looked all over this thing with a magnifying glass trying to find something wrong but i can't find anything. my brother says he didn't have to clean anything other than the keyboard and doesn't think his spit made it any further into the computer. spit is afterall very thick and i can't see it just rushing through intricate parts myself. you may or may not be able to discern anything from this but i do have one question. is it possible that a damaged keyboard could cause the screen not to work and there not be anything wrong with the rest of the computer? thanks wes don't dip over your macbook. don't dip anyway it's nasty.
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harryb2448 #14 (permalink)
Member Since: Nov 28, 2007 Location: Nambucca Heads Australia Posts: 14,074 Mac Specs: iMac i5 2.7GHz OS X.8.3	12-28-2010, 03:55 PM Wes, she be dead big time. Liquids and electronics are not a good mix! *Hang on to those original install discs like grim death! Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!*
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westikle #15 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 27, 2010 Posts: 10	12-29-2010, 05:30 PM i've been researching and am thinking that maybe this is one of the models with the faulty nvidia gpu. it is the 15" santa rosa model number A1226. maybe the time of death and spit cup incident are just coincidental. perhaps?
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