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So im new to Os x i just got my first macbook pro and im wondering if you guys could give me any tips on how i can make my OSx experience good. Im a very long time windows user i could go back as far as to windows 3.0 so thats almost 20 years of windows lol. so pretty much anything could be helpful. Im runing 10.6.1 if that helps
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Welcome aboard. Lots of info on this forum have a hunt round also have a sticky beak here and there are number of more specific help manuals here
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You'll find a boatload of video and text tutorials here as well:

Apple - Find Out How - Mac Basics

Most of them are geared towards first time Mac users.
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Highlight a file: Pic, video, or document. Press space bar. Wheeeeee!
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Yes, the preview function in Finder is incredibly helpful and easier than having to launch an application just to find out what the file is.
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Lots of good links placed here, but if you are wanting a good experience, you will as a long time windows user need to discard the quirky knowledge you've acquired using Windows. Mac OS X is not windows (and is in fact UNIX with a really slick GUI) so you need to 'give in' so to speak to the Mac way of doing things. What you will find that are common for former Windows users are:

There is no 'cut' for files in Finder. This is by design. It is safer to copy files over to where you want them then delete (move to trash) once you know they are safely where you want them.

The Dock is not the Taskbar. You put (in addition to what is already there) what you want and usually use in the Dock and use it to launch common applications that you'll use most, uh, commonly.

The green button that looks similar to the 'maximize' button in app windows does not maximize. It enlarges the app window to the size necessary to display the content, whatever that might be. Mac OS X assumes that you will be multi-tasking, and therefore you will not want anything to take over your desktop completely. This is a difficult thing for people to get coming from Windows for some reason.

That 'just works' thing is mostly true. If you plug in an external drive it just figures out what it is and 'mounts' it to your desktop. You do need to remember to 'eject' it before you unplug it, but otherwise it plays nicely with external media. This applies to CD's, DVD's, jump drives, SD cards, and all that. Just remember to eject them before disconnecting. This applies also to external monitors (with the exception that you can just unplug external monitors without 'ejecting' them; the monitor is either connected or not and Mac OS X acts accordingly depending on what's connected.)

Applications are installed by drag/drop, uninstalled by moving them to the trash. There are few apps that use 'installers'. Some do, but most are all-inclusive packages that, while they look like a single icon really consist of the whole package of things the app needs to run without laying out pieces of itself in other places you might need to clean up later.

Coming from Windows (and to an extent, traditional UNIXes/Linux) things are more 'think simple'. If there is something you ponder about how to do on Mac OS X, chances are it's the simplest way you could possibly think to do it. For example how do you burn a CD? You insert the blank CD and it shows up on your desktop as a blank CD. Drag the files you wish to burn to it. Once your done doing that double click it to open it. There will be a button that says 'Burn'. Click that and it will burn the CD for you. Simple as that. Don't want to burn certain files to that CD/DVD? Drag them to the trash.

I could go on, but I won't. I switched in 2005 and haven't looked back after using Windows/Linux/UNIX for 20+ years. The Mac of today (and note that I say 'today', not previous incarnations of what Apple called a Mac) is the most pleasant, easy to use, and intuitive computers I have ever experienced. And yes it is an experience. Why do you think I hang out in a forum like this for as long as I have? Also I tend to make long posts but that's just me. Follow the rule of 'It's not Windows' and you'll be golden.

Good luck with your quest for pleasant computing.
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Thx alot for the reply. you have mentioned the app installs is just drag and drop, its weird haha firefox was the first app i installed and i did not know what to do.....i was totally like what the ****.....i know sorta my way around the Os x a little bit now. But still finding new stuff on it. There are few visual questions i have. Can you have like 2-4 desktops like on a linux? i saw a guy swamping beetwin something like that and it looked really good. Also i saw that he had his dock on the left side, I know how to change that but he has something on the bottom like a long button to something and they wore like lines or something like that....Hard to describe. Also what replaces the quick alt+ctrl+delete from windows to go to the task menager? What about themes? I more of a visual person....
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Oh btw is there way to get RAM or a better CPU for a 15in 2009 MBP? I wanted 8gb baddly but when i saw the price with is like what? 1.3k for 4gb of ram....THATS freaking ridiculous....I brought ram for my other PC, and i paid only 100 for 8gb....What about the GPU, can i change it too? I know i know im thinking all PC, i love customizing PC's.....i got 3 custom built desktops at my house with all are almost maxed out...I would love to max my MBP if thats possible....
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The RAM is upgradeable but the cost will still be prohibitive. Laptop DDR3 over 4GB gets crazy on price fast.

Other than the hard drive, nothing else in a MacBook Pro is upgradeable. Like many PC notebooks, not much can really be swapped out.
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Thx alot for the reply. you have mentioned the app installs is just drag and drop, its weird haha firefox was the first app i installed and i did not know what to do.....i was totally like what the ****.....i know sorta my way around the Os x a little bit now. But still finding new stuff on it. There are few visual questions i have. Can you have like 2-4 desktops like on a linux? i saw a guy swamping beetwin something like that and it looked really good. Also i saw that he had his dock on the left side, I know how to change that but he has something on the bottom like a long button to something and they wore like lines or something like that....Hard to describe. Also what replaces the quick alt+ctrl+delete from windows to go to the task menager? What about themes? I more of a visual person....
Spaces... enable spaces in the system preferences under "exposé and spaces." You can have up to 8 I think, and lock certain apps to certain spaces. To switch between them, the default set up is control + arrow keys, or control + 1, 2, 3, 4, etc depending on which space you want to switch to.

There is no task manager in OS X. You don't need one. If an app is locking up, you have several options. You can right click on the icon in the dock and tell it to force quite, or you can hit option command escape which will bring up the force quit menu, in which you would select the misbehaving app and tell it to force quit.

Now, to right click you can do a couple of things... you can click and hold control, you can set up a special place on your track pad to push down and click, ooooor (this is what I do because I find with the giant multi-touch track pad, why would anybody want to actually push the thing down to click?) turn on tap to click... to do that, you go to system preferences> track pad> and select "Tap to click." and then you can turn on (under 2 fingers) secondary tap. then you just tap with 2 fingers to right click. Soooo convenient. Plus that way you're not making tons of noise, you can just lightly touch your trackpad to click and right click.

As for GUI changes, you... CAN... change some things, via a program called Magnifique (or if you're really brave, you can do it by messing with system files and .rsrc packages), but I would recommend against both of those things. Especially for the first few months of snow leopard being out. Let other people work out the bugs. If you're really interested and can't keep yourself away though, check out this board... MacThemes.

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Oh btw is there way to get RAM or a better CPU for a 15in 2009 MBP? I wanted 8gb baddly but when i saw the price with is like what? 1.3k for 4gb of ram....THATS freaking ridiculous....I brought ram for my other PC, and i paid only 100 for 8gb....What about the GPU, can i change it too? I know i know im thinking all PC, i love customizing PC's.....i got 3 custom built desktops at my house with all are almost maxed out...I would love to max my MBP if thats possible....
You can buy more RAM later from a 3rd party. You'll never get 2x4GB dimms for 100 bucks. First, it's really fast RAM (1066MHz DDR3), and second it has to be in 4GB sticks, which are EXPENSIVE at the moment. In the future you can upgrade it at a cheaper cost. The GPU you're stuck with, same with the processor. Until maybe years from now when you have another machine and want to experiment with this one.

PS - please stop disgracing your new MBP by putting that pile of **** Windows on it. :-P
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or you can hit control command escape which will bring up the force quit menu, in which you would select the misbehaving app and tell it to force quit.
Correction: You hit Command + Option + Esc. to bring up the Force Quite App window.
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woops. My fingers knew that. My brain just didn't articulate it correctly.
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DarkestRival, Thank you for the info i will be very usefull to me. And also you can say windows xp, vista is a total crap coz it is and i hate them. But windows 7 is better than you think it is. Its the best windows OS ever created finally microsoft has done something right. I was gonna ditch windows long time ago after they came up with vista but i sticked with XP untill now. But ehh im on OSX now lol But seriously if you havent tried windows 7, Please dont say crap about it Its 2x faster than the old XP and 4x-5x faster than vista. I know that because my gf has a 1.8ghz dual core toshiba from 2 years ago and i have put XP on it and vista and when i put windows 7 on it i was totally blown away. Especially on the MBP its a blast my friend. And yes it is supported, all you need is Bootcamp 3.0....

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No, I've seen Windows 7 and it looks much sharper than past versions of windows, but it is what it is... a corporate attempt to take over everything and force the PC industry to use their codex (direct X, etc). Also, I'm not sure, but your MBP can't be working to its full capacity while running windows 7 because I'm fairly sure the track pad doesn't work to its full capacity, and all those other nice features. Plus your keyboard is set up for use with OS X. Just all sorts of little things.
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No, I've seen Windows 7 and it looks much sharper than past versions of windows, but it is what it is... a corporate attempt to take over everything and force the PC industry to use their codex (direct X, etc). Also, I'm not sure, but your MBP can't be working to its full capacity while running windows 7 because I'm fairly sure the track pad doesn't work to its full capacity, and all those other nice features. Plus your keyboard is set up for use with OS X. Just all sorts of little things.
Actually you are very wrong. MBP can handle windows 7 better than a PC can. Im runing windows 7 right now and everything works as if i was running OSX, thats means the keyboard works, Multitouch trackpad works, sleep mode, everything. The bootcamp from apple only supports windows xp however someone has made bootcamp 3.0 with enables the MBP to run windows 7 with out a problem.

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