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Oneironaut · 07-04-2009, 12:02 AM

I agree, and that's what I do, but would a slow boot mean that something is wrong?

nictan · 07-04-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chrismac

Hey guys don't get confused. You would only need to run a 'archive and install' for reboot time improvement if you are using a cloned HD. This is because SuperDuper does not clone the bootup exactly the same as your original HD, which means that it takes a lot longer to boot.

The only way to fix this is to do a A&I.

You will need your install disks for this.

i dont understand. what is a cloned HD? sorry just switched to MAC. dunno much about mac technical stuff

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Originally Posted by GK27V6

I agree, yours should've dwarfed mine in time, but mine was faster even with the old 5400RPM drive. Are you running any applications when you click restart? Like my times are based on having all applications quit prior, leaving only Finder running.

i quit all with only finder running too, but i have safari, adium, quicksilver and gimmesometune as login items.

the time is now officially around 57 secs. I WANNA GET IT DOWN TO 30+!!!

kbarnette · 07-04-2009, 12:53 AM

49 second reboot time here. Running on a 17" 3.06 ghz MBP. 500 GB 7200 rpm HD, 4 GB ram.

Nice job on getting down to 30 seconds.

Kash · 07-04-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by D3v1L80Y

Why would you need to regularly or constantly restart a Mac anyway?
Leave it on... at the very least just let it sleep when you're not using it.

I was just about to say, how often do you really need to restart a Mac for this to even be an issue? I'm looking at the uptime counter on my Mac and it has been 21 days since my last restart, and I remember that was for a plethora of updates. Last time before that was probably when 10.5.6 came out.

nictan · 07-04-2009, 02:44 AM

i shut down and boot my mac everyday. i hardly ever use sleep unless it just for a short duration. doesnt sleep drain more power compared to shut down?

CrimsonRequiem · 07-04-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nictan

i shut down and boot my mac everyday. i hardly ever use sleep unless it just for a short duration. doesnt sleep drain more power compared to shut down?

It doesn't matter if you shut down completely or put it to sleep if you have your machine hooked up to the wall.

Kash · 07-04-2009, 04:21 AM

I don't even let it sleep, I just dim the screen. I've been doing this for over two and a half years with no problem

nictan · 07-04-2009, 04:22 AM

you mean you let it sleep through the night while plugging it to power? :-S

i dont trust the magsafe power enough to do that. dont wanna wake up charred

chrismac · 07-04-2009, 05:55 AM

It doesn't matter if you do either.

However, Apples official stance is that if your going to leave your MacBook for short periods of time - use the sleep function, longer than that - shutdown.

Personally I shut mine down after using it. My windows laptops are nearly always on though.

nictan · 07-04-2009, 06:29 AM

anw chrismac. care to elaborate a lil on the archive and install? i still dont quite get it. wad does it do exactly. wads a cloned HD.

chrismac · 07-04-2009, 07:57 AM

Here it is:

Mac OS X: About the Archive and Install feature

Basically, when you buy a new hard drive and want to migrate verything off your old drive to your new one you usually clone it. This is done using an app such as SuperDuper.

This works great - however when it rewrites the OS to the new drive it doesnt necessarily put everything back in the same location [mainly boot up files] so there is a noticeable lag when booting up when using your cloned drive.

The only way to cure this is to archive and install.

This basically moves your old OS to a folder called previous system, it saves all your applications, files, and settings so you do not loose them - it then installs a fresh version of your OS fixing the boot up problem.

Oneironaut · 07-04-2009, 05:19 PM

Nictan, putting your MB to sleep rather than shutting it down will not use any battery power if you leave it plugged in. Leaving it plugged in is just like leaving a desktop computer plugged in... are you also afraid to leave a desktop plugged in all night?

nictan · 07-05-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chrismac

Here it is:

Mac OS X: About the Archive and Install feature

Basically, when you buy a new hard drive and want to migrate verything off your old drive to your new one you usually clone it. This is done using an app such as SuperDuper.

This works great - however when it rewrites the OS to the new drive it doesnt necessarily put everything back in the same location [mainly boot up files] so there is a noticeable lag when booting up when using your cloned drive.

The only way to cure this is to archive and install.

This basically moves your old OS to a folder called previous system, it saves all your applications, files, and settings so you do not loose them - it then installs a fresh version of your OS fixing the boot up problem.

but i didnt clone a HD in the first place. when i got my MBP, i just used it out of the box without changing the HD. so is archive and install still applicable to me?

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Nictan, putting your MB to sleep rather than shutting it down will not use any battery power if you leave it plugged in. Leaving it plugged in is just like leaving a desktop computer plugged in... are you also afraid to leave a desktop plugged in all night?

yea i know, but im just afraid of the heat problem. tends to get a little hot when my MBP is plugged in. so i dont wanna wake up in the middle of a fire caused by my MBP. hahaha.

XJ-linux · 07-05-2009, 12:26 AM

Just do a fresh install of OS X each time you swap a disk. Use Migration Assistant to transfer your data from the cloned drive. Sure, it takes a bit longer, but with todays computer and hardware speeds, the difference is not that great.

chscag · 07-05-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chrismac

Hey guys don't get confused. You would only need to run a 'archive and install' for reboot time improvement if you are using a cloned HD. This is because SuperDuper does not clone the bootup exactly the same as your original HD, which means that it takes a lot longer to boot.

The only way to fix this is to do a A&I.

You will need your install disks for this.

I wouldn't worry about 30 seconds or so for now.... Let's not forget that most of us are going to upgrade to Snow Leopard anyway. Doing an archive and install involves a lot more than just inserting your install DVD. Besides, how often do you really need to restart your machine?

Anyway, your observation was a good one - thanks for posting it but as for me, I think I'll pass.

Regards.