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    How do I shut down am iMac with OSX & XP
    I plan to run my iMac with both OSX and XP in a virtual machine. I have a UPS and am wondering how the system shuts down with XP Pro in a virtual machine.

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    If I'm understanding you correctly, OS X would be the OS and XP would be run using Parallels/Fusion.

    When XP runs, it is basically "running in a window" just like any other application. You can resize it, minimize it, etc. The OS X desktop will still be visible behind it. The exception to this is when you choose to enter full-screen mode. In full screen, you will not be able to tell OS X is installed on the Mac be looking at the display. Windows takes up every pixel on the display.

    If you shut down XP, it doesn't turn off the computer. Windows logs off and the window that XP was running in closes (like when you quit any other application). OS X is still running and the desktop is still there ready to use.

    Hope this makes sense. I guess you can't think of XP as an OS while it is running in a VM. It's more like an application. You open it, use it, and then close it when you are finished--all the while OS X (the OS) never stops running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygray View Post
    If I'm understanding you correctly, OS X would be the OS and XP would be run using Parallels/Fusion.

    When XP runs, it is basically "running in a window" just like any other application. You can resize it, minimize it, etc. The OS X desktop will still be visible behind it. The exception to this is when you choose to enter full-screen mode. In full screen, you will not be able to tell OS X is installed on the Mac be looking at the display. Windows takes up every pixel on the display.

    If you shut down XP, it doesn't turn off the computer. Windows logs off and the window that XP was running in closes (like when you quit any other application). OS X is still running and the desktop is still there ready to use.

    Hope this makes sense. I guess you can't think of XP as an OS while it is running in a VM. It's more like an application. You open it, use it, and then close it when you are finished--all the while OS X (the OS) never stops running.
    I think I understand, starting XP will be like any other program, so it doesn't go through the whole startup routine. But I guess it still installs all the video drivers etc, that XP needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelw135 View Post
    I think I understand, starting XP will be like any other program, so it doesn't go through the whole startup routine. But I guess it still installs all the video drivers etc, that XP needs.
    You basically open the virtual environment application (vmware, parallels etc..) and start windows xp. Windows XP will then go through the same boot sequence it does when you start a PC.

    To shut it down, its basically the same.. Start > Shutdown. Once windows xp has shut down you can close the virtual environment application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad.heron View Post
    You basically open the virtual environment application (vmware, parallels etc..) and start windows xp. Windows XP will then go through the same boot sequence it does when you start a PC.

    To shut it down, its basically the same.. Start > Shutdown. Once windows xp has shut down you can close the virtual environment application.
    Thanks that makes it much more clear. I hope the iMac 24" 3.06 can handle being loaded with XP Pro and OSX 24/7. I edit a huge amount of photos so XP will have my photo program loaded on one monitor all the time. I will chances are move it to the smaller LCD when it is not being used.

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    You can allocate how much memory is dedicated to XP. I only use it occasionally and usually only have a single app open in it. Of my 2gb, 512mb is dedicated to XP (only when it's open) and the balance remains with OS X. If you had 4gb you could allocate more if necessary.

    This is one of the reasons many prefer XP over Vista in a VM. You want to use a system which requires the least amount of resources to do what you need it to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygray View Post
    You can allocate how much memory is dedicated to XP. I only use it occasionally and usually only have a single app open in it. Of my 2gb, 512mb is dedicated to XP (only when it's open) and the balance remains with OS X. If you had 4gb you could allocate more if necessary.

    This is one of the reasons many prefer XP over Vista in a VM. You want to use a system which requires the least amount of resources to do what you need it to do.
    Can that allocation be changed at a later date as I am not sure how much my photography program will use.

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    Yes. It's not like partitioning a HD. You are just telling the VM how much memory it's allowed to use when it opens. It's a setting in the preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygray View Post
    Yes. It's not like partitioning a HD. You are just telling the VM how much memory it's allowed to use when it opens. It's a setting in the preferences.
    That is great as I found that my photography program works best with at least 1.5 gb of ram.

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