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    Quote Originally Posted by burnedfaceless View Post
    Apple's brand image is no WINDOWS. That's crucial to their marketing.
    Hmm sorry.. Had to fix that for you..


    Speaking of security on iPhones, Macs and such. Has anyone else seen the stupid propaganda that NBC has been spouting out about "don't go to Russia for the olympics, you will get hacked."?

    OMFG, really.. Then they go to show a video of a guy opening a brand new MBA out of its box, btw the ripped open the box as if "this expert" was such an idiot he couldn't even open an apple box. Set it up on an open network, didn't install any security software, didn't even turn on software firewall and then left it on the network for an hour with no password and then claimed he was hacked. Then the computer he was using to monitor the network activity was an Ubuntu based laptop. Another WTF?

    Point being we have so many so called experts out there and the media really blows this mess out of proportion.

    And also network security and virus protection are the users responsibility. Expect exploits when you don't turn on Firewall, don't turn off File Sharing, don't turn off Blue tooth when not needed, don't turn off wifi when not needed, don't use secure networks or even better physical cable connections and turn off the internet when not needed. And last but not least, create a User account on Windows and stop using the admin account. These are common things to do when traveling. While nothing will prevent a good cracker from eventually getting into your system. But if you make it hard enough for him/her they will just move to an easier target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    @burnedfaceless

    You've made you're point and it appears that no amount of proof or validity is going to change your mind. You of course are entitled to your opinion, but let's get on with helping others instead of all this back and forth.

    Thanks.
    Well we can agree I made my point. I'm open to proof or validity but it hasn't been presented.

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    You're right, burnedfaceless --- you've presented no proof or validity that the wide array of non-kooks who have cheerfully contributed their time and expertise (which amounts to mountains more than any individual person, including you, will ever have) are wrong.

    So we keep saying what we KNOW TO BE TRUE: there is no reason to run an anti-virus program on your Mac, with one exception: if you are running a partition with Windows on it, that partition should use a Windows anti-virus program as one would put on any Windows installation.

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    Looking back for 20 years and looking forward from today's threat landscape ....
    If you think that technology can solve your IT Security problems, then you don't understand the technology and you don't understand the problems.
    All problems start and end at layer 8 of the OSI model .... that is the layer between the chair and the keyboard.
    Everybody talks about malware ( without going into semantics ) whilst all you have to do is ask people for their password.... this has worked in the past and will keep on working. People simply talk a lot.
    Malware is not going to be the issue moving forward, people behaviour is.
    User awareness is what will help people protect themselves.
    Very simple things often get overlooked, ie. if you did not specifically went looking for it, don't install it.
    Sometimes the mouse is faster than the brain and people just push buttons until no more buttons appear.

    If you really look at malware these days, then the challenge is not to get rid of it, but knowing that you have been hit in the first place.
    Saying that the threats are low for OS X is not correct, the threats are the same for any OS.
    Vulnerabilities in the OS & apps ( or lack thereof ) and people behaviour are the true indicators for risk.
    ( A great example is people willingly switching off the built-in controls to protect them ... ( face palm ))
    Saying that Unix has less vulnerabilities than other OS's is correct, but don't forget that there are many layers of code running on top of Unix to make it OS X.

    - Keep your OS and applications up to date.
    - Use apps from known developers ( and pay for them )
    - Ensure you have reliable backups.
    - Do you need Java and Flash ?
    - Do you need to have Admin credentials to use your machine ?
    - Don't install anything that you have not specifically downloaded.

    User awareness ( times 3 ) and communication is what will help people stay safe, no amount of technology will be able to protect someone from doing malicious things to computers.

    Just a couple of things that will make your life easier ... and by all means, enjoy your Mac.

    Cheers.... McBie
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    Mc Bie, is sooooo correct. Phishing is the biggest security issues ever. I bet I get 5 emails a week from "WoW Tech Support" or "Mods needing me to validate my username / password" oh and click this link to do so.. /roll eyes.. Also You would be surprised how at how many phone calls some companies get from their so called "IT Department" asking So and So for their username and password, that "something is wrong with their account." And the morons in the office up stairs will give it to them.. /facepalm..

    I think I send about 150+ emails a day to the junk bin due to phishing related mess..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas_m View Post
    You're right, burnedfaceless --- you've presented no proof or validity that the wide array of non-kooks who have cheerfully contributed their time and expertise (which amounts to mountains more than any individual person, including you, will ever have) are wrong.

    So we keep saying what we KNOW TO BE TRUE: there is no reason to run an anti-virus program on your Mac, with one exception: if you are running a partition with Windows on it, that partition should use a Windows anti-virus program as one would put on any Windows installation.
    Is the burden of proof on me?

    It's an operating system it's susceptible to viruses. 2+2=4.

    Whatever I had clam xav didn't pick up and my company saved from the consultant's advice.

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    You just cant help some people.
    Why ask for advice if you if you are not prepared to listen.

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