Faster???

shaun89 · shaun89 #1 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 04:09 AM

I want to get a 1GHz 12" iBook but i was wondering one thing. I already have a 1.49GHz AMD PC. Will the iBook be faster overall (because of the different way the processors work)? :confused: I really wanna switch but i don't know about the speeds.....

Thanks in advance!!!

CaptainMack · CaptainMack #2 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 02:26 PM

it will not be slower. it will probally be just about the same

Absolute Zero · Absolute Zero #3 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 03:47 PM

Mac OS X is kinda slow compaired to it's past OSes and Windows. The PowerPC is slower than x86 (it could be the other way around, I dunno, its what I have heard. And I wont trust a fanboy of Mac/Windows from what he/she says.)
It's really only a 49 MHz difference...

witeshark · witeshark #4 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 03:50 PM

The real measure is the sidebus speed. iBook = 133mhz and Powerbook = 167mhz

shaun89 · shaun89 #5 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 04:32 PM

Wow, not going to switch for a while.... I think apple needs to focus a little more on the iBooks/Powerbooks. I mean, 1GHz... thats slow compared to todays technology. There is like a single processsor for x86 PC's running at 3.4GHz. In my opinion apple is way outdated. Anyone agree. I will probably just end up getting a Windows laptop and a Apple destop.

Any other comments on the speed difference?

Thanks everyone.

Absolute Zero · Absolute Zero #6 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 04:43 PM

Ever hear of the MHz myth? You know, clock speed doesn't mean crap? Well, it's true.

Thank you.

d4rr3n · d4rr3n #7 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:03 PM

It's all about operations per clock cycle. It's why amd64's can beat p4's that are clocked 50% faster. Clock speed still does mean something though, i mean that's what you multiply by the operations per clock cycle to get the real performance of it. Just wait until next year when amd starts releasing dual core processors, intel and apple better be ready for whats coming. I'll be first in line for that quad opteron setup.

witeshark · witeshark #8 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:19 PM

The CPU clockspeed is only one measure. The internal data path efficiency is much better on the G4 motherboards! And IMO only an idiot would buy a new windows pc in todays wormapalooza Virus scanners have been defeated by worm edits to the registry. Updates are daily now. Why would anyone wanna go through that hassle? :rolleyes:

Absolute Zero · Absolute Zero #9 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by witeshark

And IMO only an idiot would buy a new windows pc in todays wormapalooza Virus scanners have been defeated by worm edits to the registry. Updates are daily now. Why would anyone wanna go through that hassle? :rolleyes:

PC gamers, online gamers, buisness workers, people who need their apps to work and are not for Mac and other OSes.

You make me laugh.

Graphite · Graphite #10 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:29 PM

just know OSX will not feel slow on your 1ghz ibook.

i have an 800mhz imac (ghz?

) and going from 3.0ghz pcs to my mac i dont notice any speed slowing, though i feel a little less angry when using the mac

i have a link rolling around about the mhz differences and % changes and what not... just when you get your ibook max out the RAM and it WILL be faster.

oh btw, relative to the mac/pc world... the ibook will be faster.

witeshark · witeshark #11 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolute Zero

PC gamers, online gamers, buisness workers, people who need their apps to work and are not for Mac and other OSes.

You make me laugh.

Off line gamers, no worms that way. Need their apps to work? Sure after all the virus and adware removing FUN still laughing?

Graphite · Graphite #12 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:45 PM

Enlighten yourself

Absolute Zero · Absolute Zero #13 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by witeshark

Off line gamers, no worms that way.

Don't be an idiot and run your Norton AntiVirus, or your free McAfee virus scaner (<3 class action lawsuits).

Quote:

Need their apps to work? Sure after all the virus and adware removing FUN

If you know what you are doing, it's a piece of cake maintaining your system.

Quote:

till laughing?

Indeed I am still laughing. If a PC gamer is not going to touch the Internet and just game online (I know someone who does this with Halo) there really isn't anything to worry about because there is no adware/spyware in games.

d4rr3n · d4rr3n #14 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 06:56 PM

can apple explain this? dual g5 2.0 wins 0 tests

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...49,pg,8,00.asp

If you believe that the powermac can double the benchmarks of a p4 running at twice the mhz maybe you'd like to buy this bridge i have for sale.

:rolleyes:

d4rr3n · d4rr3n #15 (**permalink**)

07-16-2004, 07:17 PM

here's another good one:

http://www.theandyzone.com/computer/.../shootout.html

witeshark #8 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 09, 2004 Location: Miami FL Posts: 2,860 Mac Specs: G4 1Ghz OS X 10.4.7	07-16-2004, 06:19 PM The CPU clockspeed is only one measure. The internal data path efficiency is much better on the G4 motherboards! And IMO only an idiot would buy a new windows pc in todays wormapalooza Virus scanners have been defeated by worm edits to the registry. Updates are daily now. Why would anyone wanna go through that hassle? :rolleyes: Last edited by witeshark; 07-16-2004 at 06:22 PM.
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shaun89 #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 1,072	07-16-2004, 04:09 AM I want to get a 1GHz 12" iBook but i was wondering one thing. I already have a 1.49GHz AMD PC. Will the iBook be faster overall (because of the different way the processors work)? :confused: I really wanna switch but i don't know about the speeds..... Thanks in advance!!!
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CaptainMack #2 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	07-16-2004, 02:26 PM it will not be slower. it will probally be just about the same
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witeshark #4 (permalink)
Member Since: Mar 09, 2004 Location: Miami FL Posts: 2,860 Mac Specs: G4 1Ghz OS X 10.4.7	07-16-2004, 03:50 PM The real measure is the sidebus speed. iBook = 133mhz and Powerbook = 167mhz
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shaun89 #5 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 1,072	07-16-2004, 04:32 PM Wow, not going to switch for a while.... I think apple needs to focus a little more on the iBooks/Powerbooks. I mean, 1GHz... thats slow compared to todays technology. There is like a single processsor for x86 PC's running at 3.4GHz. In my opinion apple is way outdated. Anyone agree. I will probably just end up getting a Windows laptop and a Apple destop. Any other comments on the speed difference? Thanks everyone.
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Absolute Zero #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Aug 05, 2003 Location: I'm slowly sinking in the posts of Mac-forums Posts: 1,246 Mac Specs: PowerBook 12" Combo Drive/867 MHz/256 MB RAM/40 GB hard drive/Mac OS X 10.3.5/AirPort Extreme it sux	07-16-2004, 04:43 PM Ever hear of the MHz myth? You know, clock speed doesn't mean crap? Well, it's true. Thank you.
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d4rr3n #7 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	07-16-2004, 06:03 PM It's all about operations per clock cycle. It's why amd64's can beat p4's that are clocked 50% faster. Clock speed still does mean something though, i mean that's what you multiply by the operations per clock cycle to get the real performance of it. Just wait until next year when amd starts releasing dual core processors, intel and apple better be ready for whats coming. I'll be first in line for that quad opteron setup.
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Graphite #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 25, 2003 Location: Tropical Island, Jealous? Posts: 5,279 Mac Specs: MacPro 3.0Ghz 16GB RAM, 4x256 Vid, 30''cinema display	07-16-2004, 06:29 PM just know OSX will not feel slow on your 1ghz ibook. i have an 800mhz imac (ghz? ) and going from 3.0ghz pcs to my mac i dont notice any speed slowing, though i feel a little less angry when using the mac i have a link rolling around about the mhz differences and % changes and what not... just when you get your ibook max out the RAM and it WILL be faster. oh btw, relative to the mac/pc world... the ibook will be faster.
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Graphite #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Feb 25, 2003 Location: Tropical Island, Jealous? Posts: 5,279 Mac Specs: MacPro 3.0Ghz 16GB RAM, 4x256 Vid, 30''cinema display	07-16-2004, 06:45 PM Enlighten yourself
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d4rr3n #14 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	07-16-2004, 06:56 PM can apple explain this? dual g5 2.0 wins 0 tests http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...49,pg,8,00.asp If you believe that the powermac can double the benchmarks of a p4 running at twice the mhz maybe you'd like to buy this bridge i have for sale. :rolleyes:
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d4rr3n #15 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	07-16-2004, 07:17 PM here's another good one: http://www.theandyzone.com/computer/.../shootout.html
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