Question regarding Pirates of Silicon valley

Mantronix · Mantronix #1 (**permalink**)

05-05-2007, 10:55 PM

I found the answers to some of the questions about the movie. I couldn't ask about one question because the thread was locked. In the beginning of the movie when Steve was making the announcement about a partnership between Apple and Microsoft and the audience was getting off. What came of that agreement?

Subwall · Subwall #2 (**permalink**)

05-05-2007, 11:00 PM

among other things Microsoft bought a portion of Apple to keep it afloat after it was all but run into the ground in Steve's absence. I believe for a short time IE was the default browser in Mac OS and Office for Mac came to fruition. I'm sure I missed something but off the top of my head....that's all I can think of.

Here is a video. Steve Jobs explains it better than me.

mraya · mraya #3 (**permalink**)

05-05-2007, 11:45 PM

You can see the entire keynote from 1997 here...

http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/movies.html

There are several good videos too.

baggss · baggss #4 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subwall

among other things Microsoft bought a portion of Apple to keep it afloat after it was all but run into the ground in Steve's absence.

BZZZZT wrong answer.

MS purchased $150 Million worth of Non-Voting Apple Stock and the two companies settled some long standing patent disputes. The purchase of the Non-Voting stock was part of the patent settlement and after the agreed 5 years MS sold all shares at a tidy profit. I stress Non-Voting as the stock was part of a settlement and MS never had a stake in or any control over the company.

Apple agreed to make IE the default browser o the Mac, but continued to ship the OS with Netscape pre-installed as well. Apple dumped both when they introduced Safari. MS agreed to continue to make Office for the Mac for at least 5 years, which they have continued well beyond.

The other terms of the settlement, including what MS paid Apple for withdrawing over a dozen other patent suits, most of which MS would have likely lost, have been kept a secret by both companies.

Subwall · Subwall #5 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggss

BZZZZT wrong answer.

Oh, I didn't know this was a game show.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

So Microsoft's $150m investment in Apple had less to do with the financial situation of Apple at the time and was mostly part of the settlement of patent disputes?

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #6 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 05:45 AM

The URL in your first message backs up what Baggss was saying. Thanks for posting the URL to it as I had forgotten where it was on the net.

walmartconnect · walmartconnect #7 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 06:26 AM

Zing! Perhaps I will watch that movie today, I'm driving with the family to my sister's graduation from Lycoming (9 hours away

). It's either that or True Lies

giulio · giulio #8 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggss

Apple agreed to make IE the default browser o the Mac, but continued to ship the OS with Netscape pre-installed as well. Apple dumped both when they introduced Safari.

BZZZZZT
Macs still ship with IE preinstalled.

baggss · baggss #9 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 01:53 PM

Yep. Good call. I never realized that. You'd think that since MS discontinued IE for the Mac that Apple would dump it. Wonder if it will still be there in Leopard?

dtravis7 · dtravis7 #10 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 01:58 PM

I do not remember seeing IE on my Core Duo Mini out of the box. I just did a reinstall after my testing the mini with Vista and will go check.

baggss · baggss #11 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 02:01 PM

Ya, I looked at my wife's C2D Intel iMac. it's there. Runs WAY slow though....

bobtomay · bobtomay #12 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 02:33 PM

It is not on my MBP. At least not in the applications folder, nor anywhere Spotlight will show me.

xstep · xstep #13 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giulio

BZZZZZT
Macs still ship with IE preinstalled.

Where is it. Are you sure it wasn't simply copied over via the Migration Assistant?

baggss · baggss #14 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xstep

Where is it. Are you sure it wasn't simply copied over via the Migration Assistant?

Hmmmm...forgot about that......

yogi · yogi #15 (**permalink**)

05-06-2007, 03:59 PM

Internet Explorer for Mac ceased to be supported as of January 2006. Apple would never

a) ship Software that doesn't support up-to-date technoliges
b) ship a PPC applciation on Intel Macs.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...ternetexplorer

Mantronix #1 (permalink)
Member Since: Apr 06, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 75	05-05-2007, 10:55 PM I found the answers to some of the questions about the movie. I couldn't ask about one question because the thread was locked. In the beginning of the movie when Steve was making the announcement about a partnership between Apple and Microsoft and the audience was getting off. What came of that agreement? Widgets≠Gadgets
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Subwall #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 24, 2007 Posts: 80	05-05-2007, 11:00 PM among other things Microsoft bought a portion of Apple to keep it afloat after it was all but run into the ground in Steve's absence. I believe for a short time IE was the default browser in Mac OS and Office for Mac came to fruition. I'm sure I missed something but off the top of my head....that's all I can think of. Here is a video. Steve Jobs explains it better than me. Last edited by Subwall; 05-05-2007 at 11:06 PM.
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walmartconnect #7 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 13, 2006 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 724 Mac Specs: 13'' Macbook w/ 2Ghz Core Duo, 2GB DDR2, 250GB HD, 10.5.4. iPod Touch.	05-06-2007, 06:26 AM Zing! Perhaps I will watch that movie today, I'm driving with the family to my sister's graduation from Lycoming (9 hours away). It's either that or True Lies
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bobtomay #12 (permalink)
Member Since: Dec 22, 2006 Location: Texas, where else? Posts: 21,809 Mac Specs: 15" MBP 2.33 C2D 256 4GB, MBA 13" i7 1.8, MB 2.0 2GB, Nano 4th, 3GS, iPad 1	05-06-2007, 02:33 PM It is not on my MBP. At least not in the applications folder, nor anywhere Spotlight will show me. I cannot be held responsible for the things that come out of my mouth. In the Windows world, most everything folks don't understand is called a virus. Place your vote for our Member of the Month Last edited by bobtomay; 05-07-2007 at 06:19 AM.
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yogi #15 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 14, 2005 Location: St. Gallen, Switzerland Posts: 1,973 Mac Specs: iMac Core i5, iPad, iPhone 4	05-06-2007, 03:59 PM Internet Explorer for Mac ceased to be supported as of January 2006. Apple would never a) ship Software that doesn't support up-to-date technoliges b) ship a PPC applciation on Intel Macs. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product...ternetexplorer If you liked this post, consider using the Reputation System.
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dtravis7 #6 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,806 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-06-2007, 05:45 AM The URL in your first message backs up what Baggss was saying. Thanks for posting the URL to it as I had forgotten where it was on the net.
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baggss #9 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 10, 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 10,306 Mac Specs: 27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 18.8.2-64Gb iPad 2-32 Gb iPhone 5-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage	05-06-2007, 01:53 PM Yep. Good call. I never realized that. You'd think that since MS discontinued IE for the Mac that Apple would dump it. Wonder if it will still be there in Leopard?
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dtravis7 #10 (permalink)
Member Since: Jan 04, 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca. Posts: 25,806 Mac Specs: iMac C2D Late 2007 20" with 10.8.3, Macbook Santa Rosa 4GB Ram OSX 10.8.3	05-06-2007, 01:58 PM I do not remember seeing IE on my Core Duo Mini out of the box. I just did a reinstall after my testing the mini with Vista and will go check.
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baggss #11 (permalink)
Member Since: Oct 10, 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 10,306 Mac Specs: 27" 3.4 Ghz i7 iMac-13" C2D Macbook-OSX 18.8.2-64Gb iPad 2-32 Gb iPhone 5-ATV 2-14Tb of Storage	05-06-2007, 02:01 PM Ya, I looked at my wife's C2D Intel iMac. it's there. Runs WAY slow though....
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