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    More people switching due to Vista?
    Does anyone think that more people will switch to Mac from PC, due to the obscene restrictions being programmed into Vista?

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    What "Insane restrictions" are you speaking of?


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    Quote Originally Posted by baggss
    What "Insane restrictions" are you speaking of?
    Security restrictions (not allowing other software companies access to the kernal, to make software like Norton Antivirus).

    Also, only allowing users to transfer the license to one more computer beyond the initial installation. Upgrading the motherboard or CPU would be viewed as a 'new system'..and the user would have to buy a new license for Vista to use it.

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    vistas system requirements are quite high. if one installs it on average PC there will be very limited resources left for any other program. most people will not be able to use those "bells and jingles" that supposedly make vista "cool"

    plus all these so called sequrity "enhancements", give me a break! you cannot spend 10 minutes on vista without going through 10 different alert and warning pop-ups. beleive me people will get so frustrated by this they will turn the darn thing off after half an hour.
    here is the cnet review of vista http://news.com.com/1606-2-6124945.html?tag=st.rb

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    Hmmm....

    I think more "techies" might switch because of Vista, but the average joe probably won't switch away because of it.

    -It looks slicker, so the visual difference is not as large as it used to be.
    -Average consumers will buy it pre-installed and won't need to transfer it to different machines anway - so the restrictions and high price aren't much of an issue to them.

    But overall I think that Microsoft's image has been somewhat tarnished with the problems that XP had (again experienced users might not have run into issues, but most average users sure did) and since users are going to have to switch from XP to vista anyway, perhaps more will consider OS X as an alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBlade
    Security restrictions (not allowing other software companies access to the kernal, to make software like Norton Antivirus).

    Also, only allowing users to transfer the license to one more computer beyond the initial installation. Upgrading the motherboard or CPU would be viewed as a 'new system'..and the user would have to buy a new license for Vista to use it.

    Just wanted to clarify what you were talking about, thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBlade
    Security restrictions (not allowing other software companies access to the kernal, to make software like Norton Antivirus).

    Also, only allowing users to transfer the license to one more computer beyond the initial installation. Upgrading the motherboard or CPU would be viewed as a 'new system'..and the user would have to buy a new license for Vista to use it.
    I really didn't know that...Although I've already switched it might stop me from Upgrading my Current Vista Build to an actual Vista Copy...Might just downgrade it to XP if that's the case.
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    Security companies can access the kernal via a API, which as far as I know they do not have yet but will once they need it. To be fair to MS, the OneCare program does not access the Kernal, it sits as a layer of protection on top of it.

    The security warnings when opening a program have and will be toned down before release, because of complaints from the Beta 2 and RC1. Apparently its much better in RC2.

    It seems much more like Mac OS X because it controls your use more, though it does it a lot more apparently than in Mac OS X.

    Either way it looks great to me and I will certainly look into upgrading my old PC too it. I love Mac OS X but if Vista turns out good I will certainly be buying it.

    As for people switching too it, well I doubt many people will, they will just adapt, especially once it becomes a corporate and school standard.

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    The corporate folks are going to be the hard sell. We still use Win2K at work and are being told we "might" switch to WinXP next year and that there are no plans to move to Vista in the next 5 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baggss
    The corporate folks are going to be the hard sell. We still use Win2K at work and are being told we "might" switch to WinXP next year and that there are no plans to move to Vista in the next 5 years.
    Indeed, although it probably depends which area they work in, and whether they see a benefit. I believe many of the schools in my area are planning on switching to Vista at the end of 07 to beginning of 08, large businesses may take longer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marl Huss
    Indeed, although it probably depends which area they work in, and whether they see a benefit. I believe many of the schools in my area are planning on switching to Vista at the end of 07 to beginning of 08, large businesses may take longer though.
    That sounds logical - businesses are spending their money - schools are spending someone elses money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marl Huss
    Indeed, although it probably depends which area they work in, and whether they see a benefit. I believe many of the schools in my area are planning on switching to Vista at the end of 07 to beginning of 08, large businesses may take longer though.
    Schools, well in the UK anyway, are normally the last to switch my College still uses Windows 2000. The schools especially large ones don't upgrade all machines they do it gradually which can often end up taking a couple of years. So it will be a long time before all my College has Vista we don't even have XP yet
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    Switchers probably overestimate the number of their peers that will soon join them, for any reason. But I switched in the past month, and I have to say that seeing and using Vista, viewed as a representative sample of what Microsoft has planned for us all, made me look real hard at MacBooks when the time came to buy a new laptop.

    Most people never buy an operating system without a new machine. Vista doesn't appear right now to have anything compelling for upgraders, but I suppose that might change. So people won't be "driven" to Macs by Vista, but they might take another look at Macs once the tech folks get to them about the new rules.

    But I'm probably overestimating that effect.

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    So people won't be "driven" to Macs by Vista, but they might take another look at Macs once the tech folks get to them about the new rules.
    Exactly, every time I ask someone about what they will do when Vista comes out (after I've explained Vista to them) most just say they will stick with XP for the moment, MS biggest problem really is getting people to move up to the new OS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG D 04
    Schools, well in the UK anyway, are normally the last to switch my College still uses Windows 2000. The schools especially large ones don't upgrade all machines they do it gradually which can often end up taking a couple of years. So it will be a long time before all my College has Vista we don't even have XP yet
    Really, ah the ones in my area all have had XP for a while now, thats probably because all the local businesses especially Vodafone donate alot of money, I guess thats to maintain image, and so they could get permission to build their HQ on greenfield land.

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