New To Mac-Forums?

Welcome to our community! Join the discussion today by registering your FREE account. If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact us!

Get your questions answered by community gurus • Advice and insight from world-class Apple enthusiasts • Exclusive access to members-only contests, giveaways and deals

Join today!

 
Start a Discussion
 

Mac-Forums Brief

Subscribe to Mac-Forums Brief to receive special offers from Mac-Forums partners and sponsors

Join the conversation RSS
Schweb's Lounge Forum for general conversation, chit chat, or most topics that don't fit in another forum.

why does everyone hate mac!?


Post Reply New Thread Subscribe

 
Thread Tools
christm

 
christm's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 18, 2005
Location: Devon, England
Posts: 2,295
christm is a jewel in the roughchristm is a jewel in the roughchristm is a jewel in the rough
Mac Specs: ibook g4, imac 2ghz c2d, mbp 2.4ghz c2d - 10.5.1

christm is offline
ok - dont worry about any more posts unless you want to -
QUOTE Thanks
surfwax95

 
surfwax95's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 27, 2005
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 2,410
surfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud ofsurfwax95 has much to be proud of
Mac Specs: 15" Powerbook G4 • 24" iMac • iPhone 3Gs

surfwax95 is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallooza
..... or maybe its just the beginning? or the middle?
Alright, then I see your Hasselhoff GIF and raise you one Hasselhoff JPEG!


I try to Command+Shift+/ when I can.
They're - Their - There | Two - Too - To | You're - Your | MAC - Mac
I was on the M-F honor roll for October, 2006.
QUOTE Thanks
techster82

 
techster82's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 07, 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 586
techster82 has a spectacular aura about
Mac Specs: Unibody Macbook 2.0, Blackberry Bold (Good Riddance iPhone)

techster82 is offline
You guys have me hurting I am laughing so hard. I personally can't stand the guy but what can I say, we are both huge in Germany.
QUOTE Thanks
Amen-Moses

 
Member Since: Apr 25, 2003
Location: The home of the free and the land that did for Braveheart.
Posts: 1,301
Amen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really nice
Mac Specs: 24"iMac, 15"MB-Pro, MacBook, G4 iMac, PM G5 2x2Ghz, G4 iBook & Some PCs

Amen-Moses is offline
I've got a funny story for you;

I'm trying to persuade the corporation I'm working for to drop an old IBM legacy bug tracking system in favour of Bugzilla and having no luck with logical arguments, financial arguments and even "hey look it's pretty" arguments I decided the only way forward was to just do it anyway on a machine I owned and then demo it to everyone who would listen.

Anyhow the only machine that I could spare was my iBook but as I knew the final installation would probably be on a Linux server I figured it was best to demo it that way so I ditched OS X and installed Ubuntu (it is terrific btw).

So after a few days of hacking Bugzilla on my uBook to act like the old system I was ready to demo it, everyone loved it ... "Wow it's web-based" ... "Cool I can cut and paste data into it" ... "Hey we can link between bugs" etc etc. Finally one of the managers instructs the IT guys to help me out with some hardware for a server that we can attach to our Intranet for further evaluation:

IT dude: "Oh no we can't have a Mac on our system!"

Me: "But it's running Ubuntu Linux!"

IT dude: "But it is still a Mac!"

Me: <looking around> "Am I on Candid Camera or something?"

Amen-Moses
QUOTE Thanks
techster82

 
techster82's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 07, 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 586
techster82 has a spectacular aura about
Mac Specs: Unibody Macbook 2.0, Blackberry Bold (Good Riddance iPhone)

techster82 is offline
Did you recommend that they fire the supposed "IT" guy? What an idiot, he should be flipping burgers with his online degree, not working for a corporation.
QUOTE Thanks
Kokopelli
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

There are considerations though, especially servers. I like Macs, I really do. But for support it is another OS and vendor we have to account for.

All the servers in my office have 7x24x4 support. You quite simply can not get that kind of service from Apple. That rules them out right there. (X-Servers may have better options than consumer models, but honestly not as good as Dell or IBM.)

So I would not be so hard on the IT guy, there may be reason there.

P.S. Been working the ropes with Ubuntu for the last 4 days and I must say I am impressed. As a 10 year Slackware veteran it is a shift, but none of the tools seem to get in the way of setting configurations as God intended (with a text editor) so it may just work out. Software install (apt-get) and automatic updates are the major points for me. I would recommend Dapper Drake (Ubuntu 6.06) for anyone starting out in Linux.
QUOTE Thanks
Amen-Moses

 
Member Since: Apr 25, 2003
Location: The home of the free and the land that did for Braveheart.
Posts: 1,301
Amen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really niceAmen-Moses is just really nice
Mac Specs: 24"iMac, 15"MB-Pro, MacBook, G4 iMac, PM G5 2x2Ghz, G4 iBook & Some PCs

Amen-Moses is offline
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokopelli
There are considerations though, especially servers. I like Macs, I really do. But for support it is another OS and vendor we have to account for.

All the servers in my office have 7x24x4 support. You quite simply can not get that kind of service from Apple. That rules them out right there. (X-Servers may have better options than consumer models, but honestly not as good as Dell or IBM.)

So I would not be so hard on the IT guy, there may be reason there.
I wouldn't have been as bothered if I hadn't actually asked them for a Gateway PC (we have tons of them sitting around doing nothing) OR a Blade server (of which we have several spare) but he couldn't get past the fact that my demo was seemingly running on a Mac therefore it must be bad in some way.

That was around 4 weeks ago btw, since then I have found 2 more 'customers' for whom a customized Bugzilla set up would solve their problems but as yet there is still no way past the IT jobs-worths.

Their latest objection is that "As it is open-source it must be insecure", I tried three tacts with this one:

1) 70% of the internet servers in the world are Apache based including many international banks, Apache is open-source.

2) NASA use Bugzilla!

3) "See that product we make over there, you know the one that we sell to customers for safety critical Air Traffic Control systems? Well we install Linux on it, Linux is open-source!"

So far no joy, I even had the most senior IT guy try to use the "not a mainstream application argument" as a reason we couldn't use Apache or MySQL! These guys are real live neanderthals!

Oh another favourite argument they came out with is that "you can't use open-source software if you make money with it", to this I countered that maybe they should tell Amazon, Google and Ebay that!

Amen-Moses
QUOTE Thanks
Ryosuke
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

wow, this topic vasted off and went to some other topic fast... ima stay on and comment about the orig thing..

Not everyone hates mac but most are just afraid to experiment. Most people i know just dont want to leave windows.
QUOTE Thanks
dimagex20

 
dimagex20's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 03, 2006
Posts: 202
dimagex20 is an unknown at this point
Mac Specs: iMac Intel Core Duo 17" A Little Piece Of Heaven

dimagex20 is offline
Most people that I have talked to said that they are just so used to Windows that they do not want to go on a limb for 1500 or so to try something different, when they might not even like it. I'm so glad that I walked over to the Mac section of CompUSA, that one day a few months ago, as I will never look over at the Windows section again.

It's all good.
QUOTE Thanks
Kokopelli
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amen-Moses
I wouldn't have been as bothered if I hadn't actually asked them for a Gateway PC (we have tons of them sitting around doing nothing) OR a Blade server (of which we have several spare) but he couldn't get past the fact that my demo was seemingly running on a Mac therefore it must be bad in some way.

That was around 4 weeks ago btw, since then I have found 2 more 'customers' for whom a customized Bugzilla set up would solve their problems but as yet there is still no way past the IT jobs-worths.

Their latest objection is that "As it is open-source it must be insecure", I tried three tacts with this one:

1) 70% of the internet servers in the world are Apache based including many international banks, Apache is open-source.

2) NASA use Bugzilla!

3) "See that product we make over there, you know the one that we sell to customers for safety critical Air Traffic Control systems? Well we install Linux on it, Linux is open-source!"

So far no joy, I even had the most senior IT guy try to use the "not a mainstream application argument" as a reason we couldn't use Apache or MySQL! These guys are real live neanderthals!

Oh another favourite argument they came out with is that "you can't use open-source software if you make money with it", to this I countered that maybe they should tell Amazon, Google and Ebay that!

Amen-Moses

OK now that has more to be frustrated with. Luckily for me I am the one who makes these decisions in my company. I just have to get funding approval and pass any third party software I want to integrate with our products (not use internally) through legal. I can't think of the last time I ever had to argue on anything other than a funding basis.
QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


« Macintosh Macro/Bot | interesting »
Thread Tools

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Connecting to Mac from PC problem beetlejelly OS X - Operating System 11 08-23-2012 09:47 AM
Window users that are MAC WANNA BE'S! jdoverkill Switcher Hangout 47 10-12-2006 02:48 PM
Dilemma: Mini or Power Mac G5? djmitch Apple Desktops 16 03-28-2005 09:07 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
X

Welcome to Mac-Forums.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this community the ultimate source for your Mac since 2003!


(4 digit year)

Already a member?