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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisabeach View Post
    I actually just ran ClamXav (first time in a couple months) and it gave me 2 hits on Windows software that I run in Wineskin: WinRAR and Popcorn Audio Converter. I'm quite certain those are false positives since I got the installers direct from the developer websites. I even downloaded the most recent version of WinRAR and Clam still says the installer is a virus. This is really aggravating, even though false positives are nothing new, because you just don't KNOW when to trust the results of a scan.
    So when are you running your next course ??

    As to fasle positives, this is what really annoys me, and think if this happens all the time to people not in the know, how many times, a App like WinRAR would get trashed because of this.

    I feel sorry for those Devs that loose out because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cptkrf View Post
    Actually, you don't really "Code for a Mac" or any other OS. Major viruses come from major production groups, rather than some young kid with social problems, as in the past. The writer(s) is an expert in C, C++ or one of the other languages that can intersect with other code and is also a whiz at reading raw code and hex streams. It is no different than a group trying to write a device driver for an closed device, except for the criminal part.

    And the actual testing, nowadays, would be done on a VM version of the target OS. Who would want to actually load windows over and over every time a test was run? Then, if the virus was feasible, it would be run "for real" on a real target.

    The need for a particular machine with a particular OS is trivial. A malware group could order a dozen Macs if they needed. Or two hundred. That is obvious from the reports about the few malware groups that have been arrested, or just found out about.

    If a hole had been discovered to allow a drive by virus on a Mac had been found, we would have that virus today. Therefore, no holes have been found. Note, that this does not say that a hole doesn't exist - just that, if it does, then it is unknown so far.

    Unfortunately, the laws about turning malware loose on the Internet have punishment mandates about equivalent to "I'm going to tell your Mother on you."
    But those sorts of people aren't "Mac haters". They are cold, rational, "business people" of a kind. Note that I don't believe Macs are just as easy to compromise as Windows is, just that what I mentioned may play a small role in the dearth of Mac malware. Still, your post is one outstanding explanation of what goes on in that "business".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    "A saint is one who has been recognized for having an exceptional degree of holiness." I'm not sure you need to look further than I!
    Saint | Define Saint at Dictionary.com

    The fourth definition is the one used in the New Testament, as when the apostle Paul wrote to "the saints at Ephesus", etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toMACsh View Post
    The fourth definition is the one used in the New Testament, as when the apostle Paul wrote to "the saints at Ephesus", etc.
    "a designation applied by the members to themselves" - I like this. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    "a designation applied by the members to themselves" - I like this. Problem solved.
    Does that mean I can call myself Pope Brent Paul ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedMac View Post
    Does that mean I can call myself Pope Brent Paul ??
    Well if Dre can call himself a doctor, then sure, why not?

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    And to think.... this thread started out as a discussion about anti-viruses now we have entered into Saints and Popes! We digress... ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeisabeach View Post
    Well if Dre can call himself a doctor, then sure, why not?
    Ill take that as a yes then !!

    Quote Originally Posted by lclev View Post
    And to think.... this thread started out as a discussion about anti-viruses now we have entered into Saints and Popes! We digress... ;-)

    Lisa
    Shows the OP and Thread topic might have reached its peak
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    Quote Originally Posted by lclev View Post
    And to think.... this thread started out as a discussion about anti-viruses now we have entered into Saints and Popes! We digress... ;-)
    As internet forums go…Mac-Forums is way way way better than most! With many internet forums...the OP doesn't even get their question answered…before the "fun or flaming" begins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    As internet forums go…Mac-Forums is way way way better than most! With many internet forums...the OP doesn't even get their question answered…before the "fun or flaming" begins!

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    i can help with that. Everyone here is terrible. Does that work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmith View Post
    i can help with that. Everyone here is terrible. Does that work?
    Other than the one member that's a Saint!

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    Not saying Mr. Kaspersky is right or wrong…one things for sure…he's not an unbiased observer:

    Quote from the article:

    "Mr. Kaspersky heads Kaspersky Lab, a security firm that provides antivirus software for both Windows and Mac."

    I'm sure Mr. Kaspersky's company would LOVE to sell more AV products to Mac Users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanman2004 View Post
    Funny how he makes this claim, yet fails to actually explain WHY he thinks it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Not saying Mr. Kaspersky is right or wrong…one things for sure…he's not an unbiased observer:

    Quote from the article:

    "Mr. Kaspersky heads Kaspersky Lab, a security firm that provides antivirus software for both Windows and Mac."

    I'm sure Mr. Kaspersky's company would LOVE to sell more AV products to Mac Users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeisabeach View Post
    Funny how he makes this claim, yet fails to actually explain WHY he thinks it.
    I'm sure from Mr. Kaspersky's point of view, it's obviously a ploy to sell more of 'his' product, but I wanted to touch on the idea that Macs are behind in Anti-virus protection, hence my motive behind displaying the article link.

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