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I'd just like to get something off my chest. I don't claim to be an English professor, but the level of English in posts is worrying. A growing number of posts are written with no attention to spelling, grammar or punctuation. For members that aren't mother tongue English that's understandable, but for native English speakers most likely armed with spelling and grammar checkers? I really don't get it.

Are these the same people that will carry our world forward tomorrow? No wonder the Asians are running rings around us.

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Can you advice me what Mac I should get?
Don't get me started Tom...this is one that irks me to no end as well.

How about this one..."I need some advise..."

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For members that aren't mother tongue English that's understandable, but for native English speakers most likely armed with spelling and grammar checkers? I really don't get it.
That's not really a properly formed question...

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I am already enjoying this thread.

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And not to be picky but what about the ladies who use the forum ~ not all members are guys!
Apologies, where I'm from "guys" can loosely be used for males and females.
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That's not really a properly formed question...
Well, either it is or it isn't. Not really?

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Apologies, where I'm from "guys" can loosely be used for males and females.
In casual conversation, "guys" can be used to refer to both males and females as well, but if you're going to take a stance on the use of the English language, it is usually best to practice proper sentence structure and word use to elicit the right response..

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In casual conversation, "guys" can be used to refer to both males and females as well, but if you're going to take a stance on the use of the English language, it is usually best to practice proper sentence structure and word use to elicit the right response..

People in glass houses......
My point was not about the use of casual language - read the original post. I did also state that I'm not an English professor and I'm sure that I do also make the odd grammatical error. I also do read my posts before submitting them, i.e. I make an effort. Can this be compared to the posts we've all seen?

One thing is certain though: trying to make a point about something that would benefit everyone is clearly a waste of time here.
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Well, either it is or it isn't. Not really?
really - used for emphasizing what you are saying about a situation. Looks good to me.

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My point was not about the use of casual language - read the original post. I did also state that I'm not an English professor and I'm sure that I do also make the odd grammatical error. I also do read my posts before submitting them, i.e. I make an effort. Can this be compared to the posts we've all seen?

One thing is certain though: trying to make a point about something that would benefit everyone is clearly a waste of time here.
An English professor I am not either. I am also tri-lingual and didn't speak English as my primary language until my teens..

That being said, there is value in trying to get people to write posts in a non-IM, non-4 word way, but a quick glance at the posts show that people think we are Google and frequently post "I have a problem, help me fix it" with absolutely no information..

The proper use of English is less of an issue, the real issue (at least for a technical forum built around helping/teaching/learning about Apple products) is the lack of information in the posts..

I'm severely distressed at the rapid decline of the use of the English language around me from people who speak no other language. You'd think people would make a conscious effort to speak/write it well, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I believe the initial alphanumeric texting phase before the keyboard came to the smartphones is largely to blame for the atrocious writing as well as the educational standards in our country.

Now if you think any of us are disagreeing with your attempt to add benefit to the forum, you are mistaken. It's just that having been around long enough in these and other forums and the Internet, it's a cause that isn't won with a single post..

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