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Apple has rejected hiring me 3 times now! THREE TIMES. Once they interviewed me twice. I thought I was in. NOPE! I believe I wasn't hired because I answered a question wrong. Do the Apple Stores have a database with applicants names they look up for red flags?
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The Apples Stores can not keep a database with personal data of applicants, but the Human Resources function of Apple can ( and probably will ).
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Sorry you didn't get the job, but we certainly have no insight into Apple corporate or Apple Store hiring policy and procedures..

If you were looking to get employed by the stores, I imagine that they use a way of tracking applicants online and obviously applying multiple times when you've been rejected is hardly going to want them to hire you..

As a team lead right now in the process of hiring for my team, I can certainly say that if I see a candidate apply multiple times (especially after being rejected through an interview process), I'm certainly not going to look through the resume/credentials again hoping to find some new insight..
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Sorry you didn't get the job, but we certainly have no insight into Apple corporate or Apple Store hiring policy and procedures..

If you were looking to get employed by the stores, I imagine that they use a way of tracking applicants online and obviously applying multiple times when you've been rejected is hardly going to want them to hire you..

As a team lead right now in the process of hiring for my team, I can certainly say that if I see a candidate apply multiple times (especially after being rejected through an interview process), I'm certainly not going to look through the resume/credentials again hoping to find some new insight..
Might be time to move on?
I suppose you're right. Darn, I answered a question wrong.
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This might be me being overly pragmatic but perhaps you ought to look elsewhere. Reports suggest that their rate of pay is lower than equivalent positions elsewhere so while the position may be more enjoyable (and there is certainly something to be said about the love of your job), it might be more fiscally prudent to seek out those equivalent positions (especially if you've been out of work for a while).

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I'm not sure what the Apple hiring process entails, but it involves some sort of a test, answering one question wrong is likely not reason enough to not hire..

The reason to not hire is usually comprised of many things..personality, technical skills, being a team player, moral behavior..

Unfortunately, one of the worst thing is human bias against the long term unemployed. There's the perception that if a person hasn't been employed for a while it is for some reason other than a bad economy or something..

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It's really hard to get a job out there.
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There's the perception that if a person hasn't been employed for a while it is for some reason other than a bad economy or something..
Very true. One reason why our younger folks, even the better educated ones, are having such a difficult time finding full time employment. That and the fact that employers are just not hiring because of the uncertainty of the "Affordable Health Care Act".
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It's really hard to get a job out there.
Amen! I was unemployed for 3 yrs. Oct 2008 - Oct 2011. Plenty of experience and glowing recommendations. Unfortunately, the longer you're out of the work force, the more they discriminate. It's sad but true. I had to take a warehouse job and work my way back into Accounting almost a year later. But now I'm back where I want to be.

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Amen! I was unemployed for 3 yrs. Oct 2008 - Oct 2011. Plenty of experience and glowing recommendations. Unfortunately, the longer you're out of the work force, the more they discriminate. It's sad but true. I had to take a warehouse job and work my way back into Accounting almost a year later. But now I'm back where I want to be.

Hang in there and keep trying. You'll find something.
Thanks man. But I am an older worker. I truly don't know what the future holds for me. I am praying about it.
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Thanks man. But I am an older worker. I truly don't know what the future holds for me. I am praying about it.
That may be part of your problem (age). While it's illegal to discriminate against hiring someone because of age, it is unfortunately a factor. I've been around Apple stores enough to see that most of the folks that work there are in their 20s.
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That may be part of your problem (age). While it's illegal to discriminate against hiring someone because of age, it is unfortunately a factor. I've been around Apple stores enough to see that most of the folks that work there are in their 20s.
True. But I have seen a hand full of workers who were older than me.
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Getting a job is horrible in the US these days.. ML its not you. Its a number of factors that while each very small have compounded together and really upset the job workforce in the US. When our government states we have 10% unemployment, they really mean 30%..

When I was younger, IT was the "it" field to be in. A few years of experience and a A+ cert and you were on your way to 40k a year job. If you had 2 year IT degree and A+, 60k. 4year and no A+ you was 75k or higher.

Then there is now. 4-5 years experience, A+, Linux+, Network+, CCNA and 4 year degree gets you a 30k if your LUCKY..

I got sick of doing the high end engineering work that one would normally get paid 60k for and only getting 25k a year.. I straight up said to hell with it, my military pension paid me more a month then I made working.. I retired at 35 and moved to the Philippines..


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I straight up said to hell with it, my military pension paid me more a month then I made working.. I retired at 35 and moved to the Philippines..
Retired at 35...on a military pension??...did you enlist when you were 15? To the best of my knowledge...you need to put in a minimum of 20 years before you can collect on a military pension.

Or were you injured in one of the many conflicts we've been involved in over the last 20+ years...and that's been factored in?

Just curious...maybe things have changed since I was in the US military.

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Getting a job is horrible in the US these days.. ML its not you. Its a number of factors that while each very small have compounded together and really upset the job workforce in the US. When our government states we have 10% unemployment, they really mean 30%..

When I was younger, IT was the "it" field to be in. A few years of experience and a A+ cert and you were on your way to 40k a year job. If you had 2 year IT degree and A+, 60k. 4year and no A+ you was 75k or higher.

Then there is now. 4-5 years experience, A+, Linux+, Network+, CCNA and 4 year degree gets you a 30k if your LUCKY..

I got sick of doing the high end engineering work that one would normally get paid 60k for and only getting 25k a year.. I straight up said to hell with it, my military pension paid me more a month then I made working.. I retired at 35 and moved to the Philippines..

Thanks. However, I do think it is me. I have been on many job interviews that I was qualified for. I don't know anymore. At the age of 53 I really don't know what I'm going to do. I never thought I would be faced with this. Maybe you're right. Maybe it's not me.
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