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Im trying to find my DHCP table on my linksys rounter and I can't find it. Can someone tell me exactly where it is? Im logged in and I'm looking around but can't seem to find it.
go to the status tab and click on local network you'll see the button.

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a MAC address never changes.
That's not exactly true. While you cannot physically change the MAC address of the hardware you can clone a MAC address which makes it look like it has another MAC address.

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go to the status tab and click on local network you'll see the button.
and there it is. amazing that i have never seen that.

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You can change MAC addresses. A couple of seconds with Airsnort and I can see your mac address and spoof it and then attach to you wireless network causing denial of service or giving me access when your system is off. You really should go 802.1x.

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You can change MAC addresses. A couple of seconds with Airsnort and I can see your mac address and spoof it and then attach to you wireless network causing denial of service or giving me access when your system is off. You really should go 802.1x.
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why is WEP not an option?
also turn your SSID off so they cant physically see the network



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release a virus on your network, hope he has a PC and screw him for life!

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name your wireless network "virus" or something to that effect... people think twice before clicking accept on those networks. I had this same problem at my last apartment, I would have 3-4 other people stealing from me... renamed it to virus, and no one would join it... it was nice.
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release a virus on your network, hope he has a PC and screw him for life!

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name your wireless network "virus" or something to that effect... people think twice before clicking accept on those networks. I had this same problem at my last apartment, I would have 3-4 other people stealing from me... renamed it to virus, and no one would join it... it was nice.
Hmmm...some reverse psychology - "Please, I beg you, come onto my network1"
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In all honesty using MAC address filtering, WEP security, and hiding the SSID broadcasting is useless if someone who knows what they're doing really wants to get on your network.

The only real security right now is using at least WPA or more preferably WPA2 security on your accesspoint.

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totally ignorant question, but why is it such a bad thing again?
my brother does the same thing with his neighbour's network so he says.
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It's bad for several reasons:
- It's 99% likely breaking your TOS with your internet provider which means they could end your service.
- You open yourself up to viruses, trojans, and many other network security issues.
- It some places it's illegal to uses a private network even if it is unsecured.

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It's bad for several reasons:
- It's 99% likely breaking your TOS with your internet provider which means they could end your service.
- You open yourself up to viruses, trojans, and many other network security issues.
- It some places it's illegal to uses a private network even if it is unsecured.
there was a thread a while back about some guy who got caught surfing porn on someone elses network. he was being federally prosecuted for illegaly accessing someone's network (hacking).

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there was a thread a while back about some guy who got caught surfing porn on someone elses network. he was being federally prosecuted for illegaly accessing someone's network (hacking).
That guy was being really weird about it. It wasn't just a neighbor that happened to pick up on an open WiFi network, he was parking his car out in front of the house, then when they saw him he would drive off but kept coming back.
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The really bad thing is...if somebody runs a P2P server and shares lots of copyrighted files from your network, the record industry cartels could come to your door with a lawsuit.

It's unlikely, but it could happen.
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btw, mac address filtering is almost useless as far as security goes. It may seem like a mac address never changes, but thats not completely true. You can spoof mac addresses, so all someone would need to get on to your mac addressed filltered network is a packet sniffer (many have mac address spoofing built in). It is usefull for authentication, especially if you know that your neighbor isn't smart enough to get aroundthat, but anyone with a little bit of knowledge will be able to get on fairly easily.
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