Since when has English not been British?

Sawday · Sawday #1 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 05:13 AM

The language options on my iMac include the options 'English' and 'British English'. As we British invented the language shouldn't that read 'American English' and 'English'?

Chuckoir · Chuckoir #2 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 05:20 AM

Haha, I'm with you on that one, but seeing as though you're using an American machine, they can call it what they like I guess?! Plus, I expect many of your average Americans think they 'invented' it.

But you should rest safe in the knowledge, knowing that we still invented it. 1-0. :p

louishen · louishen #3 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 07:33 AM

I guess they can call it English if they wish, after all there are more of them than us, so on a vote they would win.

But at least English hasn't become like Latin after the fall of the Roman empire, we can at least understand each other well, unless I say I'm going outside for a fagg - or an American puts something in their fanny bag

pigoo3 · pigoo3 #4 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 07:35 AM

I certainly agree with the origins of the English language mentioned above...here's what Wikipedia says:
British English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the definition of "British English" from the Oxford English Dictionary:
definition of British English from Oxford Dictionaries Online

Here's the definition of "American English" from the Oxford English Dictionary:
definition of American English from Oxford Dictionaries Online

I guess to be more fair...maybe the language option choices on an Apple computer could say:

- American English
- British English

...but if the English language is spoken in other countries as well...then should there also be these choices?:

* Canadian English: Canadian English
* Australian English: Australian English
* Hong Kong English: Hong Kong English
* Singapore English: (Singlish) Singapore English
* Chinese English: (Chinglish) Chinglish
* etc.

Food for thought,

- Nick

cwa107 · cwa107 #5 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pigoo3

* Chinese English: (Chinglish) Chinglish
* etc.

Wikipedia has it all wrong... that would be "Engrish"

Kevriano · Kevriano #6 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 08:34 AM

But when will the computer have an updated version of British English, hah wot I mean bruv, like, innit?

cwa107 · cwa107 #7 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevriano

But when will the computer have an updated version of British English, hah wot I mean bruv, like, innit?

Come again?

louishen · louishen #8 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 08:45 AM

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hah wot I mean bruv, like, innit?

I'll apply my Estuary English translater

Estuary English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Should probably be nah wot I mean bruv, like, innit?

nah wot I mean = know what I mean (do you agree/understand)

Bruv = brother - not your actual brother but borrowed from black slang = another male

init = isn't it - but doesn't usually mean that - more used as a kind of period, in fact many speakers will actually put an init at the end of every sentence they speak.

Maybe Apple should create a special version of Estuary English OS X, but they would also have to alter the GUI to have the digital equivalent of blacked out windows, plenty of bling and track suits and hooded tops.

Luckily Apple does not need to do that, I think most brothers will stick to their PCs and blackberrys

BrianLachoreVPI · BrianLachoreVPI #9 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 09:29 AM

If you guys had invented the iMac you could call the dictionary whatever you wanted...

I've been to downtown London (also to York - for Sawday) a few times - I'm not sure the English there is much better than the English here.

pigoo3 · pigoo3 #10 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianLachoreVPI

...I'm not sure the English there is much better than the English here.

Certainly not the "Queen's English"...

"We are not amused!"

Of course which "Queen" are we talking about???

- Nick

Kevriano · Kevriano #11 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 11:13 AM

Yes that was supposed to be "NAH", my stupid fat fingers in the way again.

Estuary English, I don't know why they refer to it as that. Yardie English, the influence of Black culture on the spoken tongue is terrible (no offense). Especially so in inner London and many estates in the UK.
Nah wot I mean?

RavingMac · RavingMac #12 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 11:23 AM

You mean we DIDN'T invent English?

I'm pretty certain that history records somewhere that Civilation began in America. I mean how can you truly live a civilized existence without Cheetohs, Dr. Pepper and Pizza??!!

And two out of three of those (and not so sure about the third) began here.

cwa107 · cwa107 #13 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razormac

You mean we DIDN'T invent English?

I'm pretty certain that history records somewhere that Civilation began in America. I mean how can you truly live a civilized existence without Cheetohs, Dr. Pepper and Pizza??!!

And two out of three of those (and not so sure about the third) began here.

Why would we need to invent English? We speak A-mur-i-can.

osxx · osxx #14 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 11:32 AM

English has to be one of the most butchered languages.

cwa107 · cwa107 #15 (**permalink**)

11-05-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by osxx

English has to be one of the most butchered languages.

Agreed. I'd say Spanish is probably a close second.

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Member Since: May 20, 2008 Location: U.S. Posts: 20,289 Mac Specs: 13" MB 2.4ghz, 2gig ram, OS 10.7.4	11-05-2011, 07:35 AM I certainly agree with the origins of the English language mentioned above...here's what Wikipedia says: British English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Here's the definition of "British English" from the Oxford English Dictionary: definition of British English from Oxford Dictionaries Online Here's the definition of "American English" from the Oxford English Dictionary: definition of American English from Oxford Dictionaries Online I guess to be more fair...maybe the language option choices on an Apple computer could say: - American English - British English ...but if the English language is spoken in other countries as well...then should there also be these choices?: * Canadian English: Canadian English * Australian English: Australian English * Hong Kong English: Hong Kong English * Singapore English: (Singlish) Singapore English * Chinese English: (Chinglish) Chinglish * etc. Food for thought, - Nick - Computer slow, too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some speedup tips: Speedup - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space - Apple Battery Info. Battery
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Chuckoir #2 (permalink)
Member Since: Sep 21, 2011 Location: London, Londonshire, England. Posts: 721 Mac Specs: 13" Late 2011 MBP,iPad '3' 32gb,iPhone4 32gb	11-05-2011, 05:20 AM Haha, I'm with you on that one, but seeing as though you're using an American machine, they can call it what they like I guess?! Plus, I expect many of your average Americans think they 'invented' it. But you should rest safe in the knowledge, knowing that we still invented it. 1-0. :p
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Member Since: Jan 07, 2008 Location: In Denial Posts: 6,780 Mac Specs: 4GB Mac Mini, 13" MacBook, 15" MacBook Pro OSX 10.7, 32 GB iPhone 3GS, iPad2 64gb 3G	11-05-2011, 11:23 AM You mean we DIDN'T invent English? I'm pretty certain that history records somewhere that Civilation began in America. I mean how can you truly live a civilized existence without Cheetohs, Dr. Pepper and Pizza??!! And two out of three of those (and not so sure about the third) began here. Of course, I know everything . . . I just can't remember it all at once.
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