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09-17-2005, 06:02 PM #1AlexNGuestA question about the original Macintosh.
What's the OS version of the original Macintosh? Was the OS also derived from Unix?
For the apple II, you have to insert the OS disk at booting to have the OS (DOS 3.3/ProDos) sits inside the memory. What about the OS for the original Macintosh? I imagine it would also be similar in the booting process?
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09-17-2005, 06:23 PM #2
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The original macintosh had a hard disk. And no, I do not believe the original OS was UNIX based. I don't think that came in until OS9.x or 10.0.
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09-17-2005, 06:25 PM #3
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Originally Posted by AlexN
It was just Mac OS 0.0, I believe. OS X was the first Mac OS that had anything to do with Unix.
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09-17-2005, 07:07 PM #4
The first Mac ran System Software 1.0.
The operating system was known as "System x.x" until version 8.0.
Then and only then, was the Macintosh operating system known as "Mac OS x.x".
There was a version of system software called A/UX (Apple UNIX) in the early and mid 90's, but it flopped and was discontinued.
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09-17-2005, 07:17 PM #5AlexNGuest
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09-17-2005, 07:26 PM #6
Originally Posted by AlexN
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mac: a waterproof raincoat made of rubberized fabric
MAC: a data communication protocol sub-layer, also known as the Media Access Control
Mac: a brand name which covers several lines of personal computers designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc.
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09-17-2005, 07:34 PM #7
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Like D3v1L80Y already stated, It was just Mac OS. System up to 7.x.
The origional MacIntosh had 128K RAM and a Floppy drive. You put the OS Floppy in the drive and it would boot, Origional Mac OS was designed in house by the Macintosh team which was put together by Jobs. It had nothing to do with Unix in any way. It was the first GUI though that went public although where were other GUI's like Xerox's Small Talk system.
The first UNIX based Mac OS that went public was OSX.
Jobs was kind of stuborn when it came to a few things with the first Mac like 128k RAM and no Hard Drive nor External SCSI port. After he quit Apple, they came out with the 512 with 512Megs RAM but still no Internal nor External Hard drive. Then the Plus came out with a SCSI port in back for an external HDD which the Mac really needed.
OS8 and OS9 were just improved versions of OS7 before them. They did not have a thing to do with Nextstep nor Unix.
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09-17-2005, 07:49 PM #8AlexNGuest
So, why they switched it to Unix core in Mac OS X? Why didn't they improve the previous Mac OS system like what Microsoft did?
Were Mac OS 8 and 9 that bad that they needed to change it to a completely new system?
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09-17-2005, 08:32 PM #9
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OS8 and even OS9 had Shared level Multitasking, Not premptive. It also had Shared Memory where everything runs in the same memory space. If one app crashes, a lot of times the whole system went down with it. Windows 3.1 95 and 98 were that way too especially with memory usage. Microsoft did not just improve 98/ME and come out with 2k and XP. NT was a completely new core very much like OSX is a totally new system. Windows 2k was based on the NT kernal as is XP. They are not a Redo of the 95, 98 & ME Kernal at all but totally new. With OS9 Apple was WAY behind Microsoft with 2k and XP with Flat Page memory and Premptive Multitasking. They had to do something and do it fast. OSX was born and in my opinion anyway, it is even better than XP in most respects, although XP is a very good OS as was/is 2k. OS9 was holding Apple back, Way back.
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09-17-2005, 08:37 PM #10danielbruzualGuest
Talking about the origins of computers I thought this would be appropiate.
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09-17-2005, 08:59 PM #11AlexNGuest
Thanks for the replies. One more question:
Does Mac OS 8 & 9 have Command line environment? (ie. Terminal) According to wikipedia.org, the classic Mac OS (9 or earlier) does not have Command line of any kind. Is it true?
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09-17-2005, 09:14 PM #12
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Originally Posted by AlexN
IMO, anything pre OS X sucked.
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09-17-2005, 09:25 PM #13
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Alright ive read enough stupid wrong answers.
Perhaps people I have not read answered this correctly, but I dont really care.
first apple ran dos.
first mac was in 1984 and had no hd, it ran system 1 up to 3.2 it was called something 128k
it was not until system 6 did the OS actually become useful (it is still used today.) system 7 is different from system 6, and all the OS from 7-9 are different from 6. Not until 10 did some features return.
it was not until osx (10.0.0) that unix was brought into the system
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09-17-2005, 10:25 PM #14
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Originally Posted by Graphite
first mac was in 1984 and had no hd,it ran system 1 up to 3.2 it was called something 128k
it was not until system 6 did the OS actually become useful (it is still used today.)system 7 is different from system 6, and all the OS from 7-9 are different from 6. Not until 10 did some features return.
it was not until osx (10.0.0) that unix was brought into the system
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09-17-2005, 10:28 PM #15
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