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Just a poser of a question for us to discuss.
In the past Apple have been notoriously slow on the uptake with new connections. USB 2 took them an age to implement really, and then they ditched Firewire 400 (annoyingly).
With the rapid arrival of many and external HD with USB 3 connections, I was curious as to how long you think Apple will take.
Do you think the next new line of Laptops and Desktops will support it? Or do you think Apple will steadfastly stick to Firewire 800 (which doesn't appear to have much support elsewhere)?
I think they will take at least 2 more model updates personally, which would be a shame.
Would you be keen to have it? I think I would given the super fast transfer speeds.
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I would say the next line of laptops/desktops/ should have usb3 support, but then again, it all depends on how fast it catches on.. Currently have usb3.0 support on my computer right now, havent encountered anything to use it with. The real factor would seem to be that if the cameras catch on to usb 3.0, which is probably why ieee1394 has stuck around for so long.
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I voted yes. That said, Apple believes everything should be cloud based or wireless. I would imagine they don't place a high priority on wired connections anymore. We are lucky to still have Firewire. If it doesn't have a 30-pin connector and interface with iTunes, it's useless as far as Apple is concerned.

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I would say the next line of laptops/desktops/ should have usb3 support, but then again, it all depends on how fast it catches on.. Currently have usb3.0 support on my computer right now, havent encountered anything to use it with. The real factor would seem to be that if the cameras catch on to usb 3.0, which is probably why ieee1394 has stuck around for so long.
Interesting. Nearly all of Lacie's current range of external HD's are USB3 enabled, which would make for some speedy transfers!

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USB3 would be nice for large data transfer.
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Most of my data transfers are not large files. I usually have to transfer insanely large numbers of really tiny files all in one go. I wonder how good USB3 would be at handling that.
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Apple have a good track record of embracing new technology, so I would thing that USB 3 will start to appear in the next line of desktop updates

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Interesting. Nearly all of Lacie's current range of external HD's are USB3 enabled, which would make for some speedy transfers!
well with solid states coming in though, things are going to look very interesting..check out This friggin amazing video and see how fast SSDs are which might be a factor.
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well with solid states coming in though, things are going to look very interesting..check out This friggin amazing video and see how fast SSDs are which might be a factor.
How did we go from USB 3 to SSD? SSD have been around for awhile now, and they aren't practical as they are extremely expensive for the amount of storage that you get.

We have been talking about USB 3 for what like almost two years now? Hopefully they will implement it within the next two refreshes.

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I would really like to have USB 3 considering USB 2 is no longer fast enough for me and as you mentioned Firewire 800 lacks broad support. I also don't like paying more for devices that also includes Firewire just so I can get the faster speeds. A perfect example is external hard drives. There are plenty of decently priced USB hard drives but when they add Firewire support the price goes up.

Light Peak also looks interesting but if it doesn't gain broad support we will have the whole Firewire lack of support issue all over again. It does have a higher chance of wide support though since it's being working on my Intel. I guess we will have to wait and see...
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USB3 hasn't really found much mass acceptance in the marketplace yet. Apple is unlikely to support it anytime soon, though of course people with Mac Pros will once again reap an advantage in that someone will create (or probably already has already created) a USB3 add-on card.

Colour me a USB3 skeptic. I don't doubt that it's very fast indeed, but all real-world indications are that -- once again -- it's posted speeds are theoretical, and users will never actually see but maybe 40-60% of the posted speed in everyday use. Now that's still very fast, but I just don't like false advertising.

I admit I was holding out for -- but have now given up on -- S1600 and S3200 Firewire, and it's a shame Apple never brought them out, but I suppose they didn't feel like expending the effort in yet another "pishing" contest. I'm keeping an eye on Light Peak, but not holding my breath.

And who's to say the eSATA technology won't improve? That could give USB3 some real competition, because for the most part USB2 is fast enough for most of the things people use it for except in one area: drive speed.
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I voted Yes but if you have a PCMCIA/Express34 port, you can insert whatever connections for data transfer you want.

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I like USB3, but really, I don't really care, but I DO want it, just don't care enough. It's not going to stop me from getting something.

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