05-25-2005, 01:59 PM

I love my G5. I love my 23" Cinema Display too. However, after a year it occurs to me that OSX just doesn't have a great net browser....yet.

I use Safari and like it's speed, looks etc; But.....it lets too many popup and popunders through. Also, I miss having extensions for Safari. Sure, there are a couple tweeks but, nothing like Firefox.

Firefox. I love it. On Panther it ran stellar. On Tiger I am having continued problems. It locks up a lot. I have uninstalled it several times but, this continues to occur. I have spoken with 3 other people who have the same problem.

OmniWeb. I bought it but, it too locked up on Tiger. I gave it 2 weeks but, nothing changed. Got my money back. I wanted OmniWeb to work so badly too.

Shiira. This has been a pleasant surprise. Never locks up. Worth checking out...you'd be surprised too.

Camino. By current favorite. Stable and fast. I miss the extensions on this as well. The popups still happen with this though.

Ultimately, OSX is missing THE browser. Safari SHOULD be it but, it acts like a beta product to me a lot of the time. There should be extensions for Safari IMO.

Thoughts?

05-25-2005, 02:17 PM

That's the reason that I do not use Safari.. and currently I use Firefox, but I use Panther right now so Im not having those problems.

05-25-2005, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Murlyn

That's the reason that I do not use Safari.. and currently I use Firefox, but I use Panther right now so Im not having those problems.

Has anyone else had issues with FF/Tiger? I'm curious as to whether there is a workaround. I've sent an email to the Mozilla Crew. Even the OmniWeb demo worked 100% on Panther but, with Tiger....no way.
I miss using FF on my Mac.

05-25-2005, 04:40 PM

I'm using Safari on Tiger and Command + K works fine blocking popups and if I need a popup (on certain sites, though not many) I just use the same command to disable it.

05-25-2005, 04:46 PM

I love safari 2.0 but i get a ton of lock up and that i hate

05-25-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by bebopredux

Has anyone else had issues with FF/Tiger? I'm curious as to whether there is a workaround. I've sent an email to the Mozilla Crew. Even the OmniWeb demo worked 100% on Panther but, with Tiger....no way.
I miss using FF on my Mac.

What's the problem with Firefox that you are having? Maybe we can help. :cool:

05-25-2005, 04:55 PM

I have not had one lock up with Safari 2.0 since I installed Tiger the night it came out. It works so well in fact, I have not even messed with Firefox. I have not had one popup or popback on Safari 2.0 but have with Firefox 1.04 on the PC.

I will try out firefox in Tiger and see what happens.

05-25-2005, 05:18 PM

I actually prefer Camino over all of them, even Safari 2.0. The speed just isnt there with Safari and reminds me a bit too much like IE 6. Camino seems to actually run a little better on Tiger then it did before.

Camino, just for people who have not heard about it is another Mozilla based browser similar to Firefox, except has the Apple look to it. It is technically still beta but I haven't had any problems with it yet.

05-25-2005, 05:57 PM

I waffle between Camino and Safari now. I generally prefer Camino but the daily builds had a bad series that got on my nerves so I switched to Safari. Really the only thing that is keeping me in Safari right now is the spell checker. For whatever reason I seem to make an undue amount of typos on the forums which I would just as soon avoid. If a stable release of Camino had spell check I would definitely jump on that.

I also use FireFox and have not had it lock up in Tiger yet. I mostly use it for banking and amnesiac activities. i.e. I set it to have no on disk caching, no history, no stored passwords, and it uses a TOR proxy. So there is no history of anything I do on that particular browser and it can not be traced. I don't use it too often though, mostly when I am surfing from a public place.

Just being curious, what sites do you all go to where the popups are not blocked? I will get one occasionally but it is less than once a week.

05-25-2005, 07:37 PM

Popups with me using safari on 10.3.9 are extremely rare......less than once a week.

Gosh, I love safari, the only other browser I use is Camino.

05-25-2005, 07:55 PM

I just loaded the newest Camino and it's pretty awesome. No more so than Safari really, but I was looking for an additional browser for my iMac. It's nice to have two. Tried IE5 today as well, and boy that sucked. Slow as ****.

05-25-2005, 09:40 PM

Have any of you tried Shiira?

From their site:

"Shiira is a web browser based on Web Kit and written in Cocoa. The goal of the Shiira Project is to create a browser that is better and more useful than Safari. All source code used in this software is publicly available."

The Tab Expose feature is cool.

As for what problems I am having with FF/Tiger? I will be browsing along OK until I start getting the "spinning pinwheel" with every click I make on FF. I have to force quit the browser and restart it. When I do, sometimes I can go along for a few hours without problems. But, eventually it happens again. With Panther, FF ran just great. FF runs 100% great on my PC but, it chokes on Tiger. Maybe the next release ( June ) will address this.

I am in agreement with others on Camino. For me anyway, it is the most stable browser on my Mac. Period. These developers deserve a round of applause for Camino.

As for Safari? I visit sooooo many sites that I cannot recall which ones have the popups. Popunders, same thing. I will say this though:

I help people get rid of spyware/adware on their PC's. It is an epidemic in every sense of the word. Older people are hit hard and it infuriates me to see this. I have been recommending people get Macs now. But, Safari doesn't do what it SHOULD do IMO. Their should be NO popups/popunders with a Mac machine using Safari. It's a key selling point for Macs and Safari is failing. I make mention of "no viruses, no adware, no spyware, no popups" in explaining the virtues of Mac/OSX. No excuse for Safari to allow a single popup/under. None. If FF has all these extensions and Apple has the best engineers then Safari should rule the roost. It isn't and I find this a bit puzzling. The RSS feed on Safari 2 is OK but, I could live without it over a complete ad-stopping machine. I expected more from Safari 2 actually. It should be more and it COULD be more. Let's hope Apple makes it the browser it can be....soon.

05-26-2005, 03:11 AM

Its so new that Im sure it will evolve...time will tell

09-06-2005, 09:23 AM

I originally posted this question re browser problems on Tiger. I operate a Power G4 Quicksilver model. Since I upgraded to Tiger, I get continual messages that connecttion is refused whenever I click a link? This is true in both Camino and Firefox. As for Safari, I get continual message "Safari can't open page or can't find server? It is also painfully slow to load anything.
Also, Ihave a powerful DSL modem from Verizon. net. When I talk to their techs, they tell me that the only supported browser for Tiger are IE and Safari.
By the way, when I ran Panther I installed a number of features designed for Safari but none of them worked? I saw in an article somewhere yhat it is necessary to change port settings for Tiger. I tried doing so but still had problems, If anyone knows a fix for this I will be eternall gratefull. Also after refusal message when I go back and click the link we go through the connecting to whatever server I am trying to view. Thanks Lila :dummy:

09-06-2005, 09:30 AM

Why doesn't anyone ever talk about/recommend Opera. It is arguably a better and faster browser than all previously mentioned. They were giving away licenses last week.

http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=mac