06-04-2008, 10:50 AM

Whether you like him or not, this is a big step for our country.

06-04-2008, 11:08 AM

Sure is a big step, but which direction? He surely isn't the best candidate the DNC could have produced.

06-04-2008, 11:13 AM

i think this could provide for an entertaining election year.

06-04-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by cheesybanana

Whether you like him or not, this is a big step for our country.

In a word,... absolutely. I never thought I'd see this day in my lifetime.

BTW, hope you don't mind my edit of your thread title.

06-04-2008, 11:25 AM

Congrats to Obama. Now, Hillary will join the ticket, and the Democrats will win this election hands down!

06-04-2008, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by JohnTheMacGeek

Sure is a big step, but which direction? He surely isn't the best candidate the DNC could have produced.

The direction is forward.

Even if you don't consider Obama the best candidate the DNC could have produced, either Hillary or Obama would be a step forward for American politics because they both signify groups that have so far never even been seriously considered in a Presidential race.

I'd consider that a significant step for American politics, no matter which party or Candidate you support.

Would I have voted for Margaret Thatcher or Angela Merkel? No.
Do I consider them becoming the elected representatives of their countries an important step for politics in Europe? Yes.

06-04-2008, 11:59 AM

I wish it would've been Colin Powell... But it still remains a step in a direction that people probably wouldn't have imagined a few decades ago.

06-04-2008, 01:00 PM

im not for obama sorry

06-04-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by SchneiderStudio

im not for obama sorry

As I recall, the question posed by this thread was whether you think the nomination of an African-American by a major political party is a big step forward for the country. It was not whether you support him as a candidate.

06-04-2008, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by cwa107

As I recall, the question posed by this thread was whether you think the nomination of an African-American by a major political party is a big step forward for the country. It was not whether you support him as a candidate.

Exactly.

06-04-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by cwa107

As I recall, the question posed by this thread was whether you think the nomination of an African-American by a major political party is a big step forward for the country. It was not whether you support him as a candidate.

Or it means that people support him because hes a minority, and the not the best candidate. Is that a step forward? Well in a way, I guess, but I see alot of people who support him, despite knowing very little about his policies.

Im not saying that everyone who supports him is just trying to be politically correct. Im sure millions of people like his policies and could care less about who he is. Its just that it seems like you see alot of it, as if the whole "We are ready for a black or woman president" claim needs to be fulfilled just to prove a point, rather than because he/she is the best candidate. Its like some women voting for Hilary just because she is a woman. Or people voting for bush because they feel they could have a beer with him. Personally, support whoever you want, but if its for those reasons I just think its stupid.

06-04-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by SchneiderStudio

im not for obama sorry

Okay...

06-04-2008, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by CL33Zero

Or it means that people support him because hes a minority, and the not the best candidate. Is that a step forward? Well in a way, I guess, but I see alot of people who support him, despite knowing very little about his policies.

Im not saying that everyone who supports him is just trying to be politically correct. Im sure millions of people like his policies and could care less about who he is. Its just that it seems like you see alot of it, as if the whole "We are ready for a black or woman president" claim needs to be fulfilled just to prove a point, rather than because he/she is the best candidate. Its like some women voting for Hilary just because she is a woman. Or people voting for bush because they feel they could have a beer with him. Personally, support whoever you want, but if its for those reasons I just think its stupid.

Yeah that's a very annoying and prominent issues, I know plenty of people who are voting for McCain just because they're republican, for Hilary just because she's a woman and Barack just because he's young, and although I favor Barack people really need to do their research first, maybe they'll find out that they don't like him OR her, whoever they're voting for!

06-04-2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by CL33Zero

Or it means that people support him because hes a minority, and the not the best candidate. Is that a step forward? Well in a way, I guess, but I see alot of people who support him, despite knowing very little about his policies.

Im not saying that everyone who supports him is just trying to be politically correct. Im sure millions of people like his policies and could care less about who he is. Its just that it seems like you see alot of it, as if the whole "We are ready for a black or woman president" claim needs to be fulfilled just to prove a point, rather than because he/she is the best candidate. Its like some women voting for Hilary just because she is a woman. Or people voting for bush because they feel they could have a beer with him. Personally, support whoever you want, but if its for those reasons I just think its stupid.

I understand the point you're trying to make, but again, you miss the point of this thread. Going back to the OP, the question was whether a positive milestone was reached by virtue of the fact that an African-American (regardless of his politics) was nominated as a presidential candidate..... period.

I guess what I'm trying to say is let's try not to make this thread about the candidates' positions and whether or not you support them.

06-04-2008, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Vindicat3d

Yeah that's a very annoying and prominent issues, I know plenty of people who are voting for McCain just because they're republican, for Hilary just because she's a woman and Barack just because he's young, and although I favor Barack people really need to do their research first, maybe they'll find out that they don't like him OR her, whoever they're voting for!

You said it!

Research!

It is so crucial, to me, worse that not voting is making an uneducated vote.

Well, at least in principle.