04-24-2007, 10:49 AM

I want to run Bootcamp and Parallels on my Macbook Pro because I want to Aero glass and I want to be able to drag files over so I will be using Parallels for that.Can I have Bootcamp and Parallels both installed?I just ordered my Macbook pro and it will come with Parallels can I just put bootcamp on my computer.I wonder about the activation code can I use the same one?Thanks.

04-24-2007, 10:55 AM

You can have both BootCamp and Parallels on the same computer.

If you install Windows via BootCamp, you can then use that installation/partition to run Parallels without needing two separate installations of Windows. (at least for XP; it may be different for Vista)

Also with XP, you can call the MS service line and get a second activation code as long as both copies are on the same machine. However, I seem to recall reading somewhere that some Vista packages don't allow for "free" extra virtual machine licenses.

04-24-2007, 11:12 AM

Would I have to pay or take the virtual one off.

04-24-2007, 11:21 AM

i saw this on the net

But Vista Ultimate is different. Under the Additional Terms section for that OS, the license reads:

You may use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system on the licensed device.

In other words, if you are running a licensed copy of Vista Ultimate, you can load another copy of that same OS, using the same product key, in a virtual machine on that same computer (the "licensed device"). This license gives Vista Ultimate users a right they wouldn't have with any previous version of Windows. (The Vista Enterprise license will reportedly be even more generous, giving users the right to run up to four virtual copies on the licensed machine. There's no indication of what virtualization rights will be included with Vista Business.)

In this case, at least, Microsoft deserves congratulations, not criticism, for addressing the issue of virtualization in a way that makes sense for its most tech-savvy customers.

04-24-2007, 11:27 AM

I don't believe that is correct.

Previous versions of Windows (like XP) didn't require you to buy a more expensive version/package to run a virtual machine. When I called to get a second key for my XP SP2 Home disk, I specifically told them it was to run one copy on its own partition and a second copy in a virtual machine on the same computer. They had no problem with that.

04-24-2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by ToddG

I don't believe that is correct.

Previous versions of Windows (like XP) didn't require you to buy a more expensive version/package to run a virtual machine. When I called to get a second key for my XP SP2 Home disk, I specifically told them it was to run one copy on its own partition and a second copy in a virtual machine on the same computer. They had no problem with that.

No, it's correct - the non-Ultimate Vista doesn't license you to run it in a VM.



Bear in mind that Aero won't work in Parallels as there's no 3D support.

04-24-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by ToddG

If you install Windows via BootCamp, you can then use that installation/partition to run Parallels without needing two separate installations of Windows. (at least for XP; it may be different for Vista)

The current version of Parallels does NOT support using a Vista Boot Camp partition. If you try it, the Boot Camp option will be grayed out (I learned this the hard way).

So if you want to use the same Windows installation on both Boot Camp and Parallels, you're going to have to do it with XP, at least until Parallels adds support for that particular feature for Vista.

04-24-2007, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by knightlie

No, it's correct - the non-Ultimate Vista doesn't license you to run it in a VM.

Right. What I'm saying is that pre-Vista, other versions of Windows did allow/license you to run it in a VM. Only with Vista have they come along and created this "Ultimate" version that you have to pay extra money for in order to do that.

But the article quoted above made it sound like the opposite: that you'd never been able to run in a VM before (pre-Vista) and somehow Vista Ultimate was teh roxxor because now you could.

04-24-2007, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by ToddG

Right. What I'm saying is that pre-Vista, other versions of Windows did allow/license you to run it in a VM. Only with Vista have they come along and created this "Ultimate" version that you have to pay extra money for in order to do that.

But the article quoted above made it sound like the opposite: that you'd never been able to run in a VM before (pre-Vista) and somehow Vista Ultimate was teh roxxor because now you could.

I have windows ultimate comming with Parallels installed.Now if I take off Parallels and uninstall vista can I then put bootcamp on with vista and run the Aero glass.

04-24-2007, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by ToddG

Right. What I'm saying is that pre-Vista, other versions of Windows did allow/license you to run it in a VM. Only with Vista have they come along and created this "Ultimate" version that you have to pay extra money for in order to do that.

But the article quoted above made it sound like the opposite: that you'd never been able to run in a VM before (pre-Vista) and somehow Vista Ultimate was teh roxxor because now you could.

Sorry, I misunderstood you. Yes, I suppose when XP was released VM's weren't so likely as they are today.

04-24-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by CORRY20

I have windows ultimate comming with Parallels installed.

I don't understand you here - You don't install Parallels on Vista.

Now if I take off Parallels and uninstall vista can I then put bootcamp on with vista and run the Aero glass.

You don't need to take Parallels off to install Vista under BootCamp.

04-25-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by knightlie

I don't understand you here - You don't install Parallels on Vista.



You don't need to take Parallels off to install Vista under BootCamp.

When I get my computer and vista is installed with Parallels and when I get it I want to put Bootcamp on my computer wouldn't it not let me do it because I already have vista on my machine.

04-25-2007, 02:08 PM

That still doesn't make sense. Installing Vista via Boot Camp has nothing to do with Parallels. You start up the Boot Camp Assistant, choose which version of Windows you want to install, partition your hard drive, and then restart the computer to boot into Windows setup. Nowhere during that process should Parallels interfere.

Also, how are you getting your computer with Parallels pre-installed with a copy of Vista?

04-25-2007, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Kash

That still doesn't make sense. Installing Vista via Boot Camp has nothing to do with Parallels. You start up the Boot Camp Assistant, choose which version of Windows you want to install, partition your hard drive, and then restart the computer to boot into Windows setup. Nowhere during that process should Parallels interfere.

Also, how are you getting your computer with Parallels pre-installed with a copy of Vista?

I ordered it from macmall

04-25-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kash

That still doesn't make sense. Installing Vista via Boot Camp has nothing to do with Parallels. You start up the Boot Camp Assistant, choose which version of Windows you want to install, partition your hard drive, and then restart the computer to boot into Windows setup. Nowhere during that process should Parallels interfere.

Also, how are you getting your computer with Parallels pre-installed with a copy of Vista?

I will have to install vista again wouldn't I for it to work with bootcamp?